WILF 46,606 Posted March 2 Report Share Posted March 2 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mC HULL said: come on wilf what’s your opinion on the asylum seekers lol My opinion is we should call things what they are. id guess 98% of the aliens arriving in the Britain are not asylum seekers…..they are both legal and illegal economic migrants. Every single one of those people getting off the boats at the beach are criminals, they are illegally entering a country…..period ! We are at a point where we can’t sort the wheat from the chaff and help people in genuine need by bringing them to Britain, we have to help them in situ or not at all. We are committing cultural, social and genetic suicide and that has to stop and be reversed. That’s what I think. Edited March 2 by WILF 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,133 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Leatherface said: I just have, stopping all foreign aide would cause a rise in people seeking asylum, agree? Accepting asylum seekers is something we signed up for, you are falling for the Tory smokescreen, blame everything on the asylum seekers and that way the downfall of our country is nothing to do with us. Instead of blaming everything on Johnny Foreigner how about some realistic solutions? Stop being afraid of taxing the wealthy. Improve childcare provision for full and part time workers. For every child that lives with a parent, increase the parents higher rate tax threshold. Legalise euthanasia, that would save considerable amounts of money and lessen the suffering of millions of people. Leave no generation behind, everyone must be able to acquire a stake in society. Encourage home ownership and take steps to make home ownership more affordable. Promote healthy living eg active travel, weight management support, banning smoking, sugar taxes, healthy school dinner funding. Make it easier and cheaper for adults to formally retrain for more suitable roles as they age. A similar approach to the Japanese model. You said my post was like Mien Kampf, fair enough, it was fairly right wing, I accept that, as I consider myself a right of centre person . Your post, to me, reads like something out of the Corbyn-Abbot play book. I understand you are trying to get a rise, but I also understand you don’t really want to piss me off or try and make me look like a fool, as I’ve always been always courteous to you in your various guises on here, so, if you don’t mind , I’ll bow out of this conversation. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherface 173 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, WILF said: My opinion is we should call things what they are. id guess 98% of the aliens arriving in the Britain are not asylum seekers…..they are both legal and illegal economic migrants. Every single one of those people getting off the boats at the beach are criminals, they are illegally entering a country…..period ! We are at a point where we can’t sort the wheat from the chaff and help people in genuine need by bringing them to Britain, we have to help them in situ or not at all. We are committing cultural, social and genetic suicide and that has to stop and be reversed. That’s what I think. There's a difference between arriving and being accepted for asylum. If the Tories were more competent and gave a stuff, applications would be decided quicker and we wouldn't have such a massive backlog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherface 173 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: You said my post was like Mien Kampf, fair enough, it was fairly right wing, I accept that, as I consider myself a right of centre person . Your post, to me, reads like something out of the Corbyn-Abbot play book. I understand you are trying to get a rise, but I also understand you don’t really want to piss me off or try and make me look like a fool, as I’ve always been always courteous to you in your various guises on here, so, if you don’t mind , I’ll bow out of this conversation. Cheers. Come on mate no need to bow out, if you don't agree with my proposals at least tell me why, I think my manifesto is a decent solution if I do say so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,606 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Just now, Leatherface said: There's a difference between arriving and being accepted for asylum. If the Tories were more competent and gave a stuff, applications would be decided quicker and we wouldn't have such a massive backlog. The “backlog” isn’t the thing killing your society, culture or genetic heritage…..why do people keep pretending absolute nonsense like wether they are processed or not processed is an actual, real problem….it isn’t ! If I serve you a bowl of soup with 6 flys in it the problem isn’t which flys ate dogshit and which flys didn’t, the problem is that the soup is now f****d ! 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherface 173 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Just now, WILF said: The “backlog” isn’t the thing killing your society, culture or genetic heritage…..why do people keep pretending absolute nonsense like wether they are processed or not processed is an actual, real problem….it isn’t ! If I serve you a bowl of soup with 6 flys in it the problem isn’t which flys ate dogshit and which flys didn’t, the problem is that the soup is now f****d ! How is it a problem if their asylum application fails and they are deported? I agree though, accepting thousands of people isn't sustainable but it's something that we have signed up for, a solution would be to amend the timeframe of asylum, instead of being granted permanent asylum we could introduce a temporary measure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,133 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Just now, Leatherface said: Come on mate no need to bow out, if you don't agree with my proposals at least tell me why, I think my manifesto is a decent solution if I do say so. To be honest, I’ve watched Newcastle have a good win, I’ve watched darts that have been top class , then watched Michael Parkinson interview Peter Cook and now I’m watching a programme on Led Zeppelin, while enjoying a rather nice glass of , dare I say it, Russian import vodka, so debating with someone who has had dozens of user names doesn’t come very high on my priorities tonight. No offence, Grebby , and I’d still have that pint with you next time you’re up here . Cheers, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherface 173 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, chartpolski said: To be honest, I’ve watched Newcastle have a good win, I’ve watched darts that have been top class , then watched Michael Parkinson interview Peter Cook and now I’m watching a programme on Led Zeppelin, while enjoying a rather nice glass of , dare I say it, Russian import vodka, so debating with someone who has had dozens of user names doesn’t come very high on my priorities tonight. No offence, Grebby , and I’d still have that pint with you next time you’re up here . Cheers, Once you've finished that bottle you'll be swaying to the left. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,606 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Leatherface said: How is it a problem if their asylum application fails and they are deported? I agree though, accepting thousands of people isn't sustainable but it's something that we have signed up for, a solution would be to amend the timeframe of asylum, instead of being granted permanent asylum we could introduce a temporary measure. I didn’t sign up for it !…..did you sign up for it ? What happened to a good old fashioned “No” ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherface 173 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, WILF said: I didn’t sign up for it !…..did you sign up for it ? What happened to a good old fashioned “No” ? No, but, you opt out, you lose a lot of support, come on, we both know that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,133 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, Leatherface said: Once you've finished that bottle you'll be swaying to the left. I’m savouring it mate ! I’ve also been gifted this; but I’m waiting for a friend to visit who I know also enjoys an exceptional gin before opening it . Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,606 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Just now, Leatherface said: No, but, you opt out, you lose a lot of support, come on, we both know that. Support from and for who ? I wonder if the old white population of places like Rochdale, Bradford, Luton, Leicester or Birmingham feel supported ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leatherface 173 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 1 minute ago, WILF said: Support from and for who ? I wonder if the old white population of places like Rochdale, Bradford, Luton, Leicester or Birmingham feel supported ? If we rejected asylum seekers we would violate numerous international agreements and human rights conventions which could potentially bring legal challenges and even sanctions, it would damage our reputation mate. These places are filled by people who arrived via legal routes opened up by our governments, let's not put them in the same boat as asylum seekers. (no pun intended) We are talking immigrants generations deep, wether you accept them as Brits they are here to stay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,133 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 Grebby, have you ever thought of posting something original, starting your own thread ? I can see by the way you are always the antagonist on threads that you are probably educated and erudite, but I’m sure you could add to the site with positive posts. I don’t think you could add to the Lurcher and Running dog forum, but I’m sure you could be good for the General forum, so I don’t really understand why you are always out for a bite or a rise ?? Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,606 Posted March 3 Report Share Posted March 3 20 minutes ago, Leatherface said: wether you accept them as Brits they are here to stay. Yes they are and so is every single one arriving daily ! Live the dream old chap ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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