Bullherder

[dogmandont 9,799]

2 hours ago, Elchapo said:

Yea the Irish secret squirrel club like to think of the full Wheaton as a mythical dog that could eat a lion , slay a dragon , ride a unicorn then come back home clean it's own kennle out and then sort it's own feed out after a day's work , that's why you have be vouched for ...or the other saying 

 

Only Kept in small circles , 

 

They aren't some mythical beast that's for sure and I've never heard a single Irish man claim that they are because they'd be laughed at if they did, is there plenty of men that like them and their crosses.. Definitely.. Myself included, if your into knocking over foxes with a lurcher then you could do a lot worse than having a wheaten cross, I've seen far more shite bull xs over the years than wheaten xs, only been around a handful of pures some were decent a couple were first class and some were culls and good for no purpose. 

[dogmandont 9,799]

3 hours ago, C.green said:

Definitely alot of hype surounding them wheatens that they dont deserve. Ive seen one good one that could do abit of anything the rest have been absolutely shit. The good one i mentioned would have seen far more work than any in ireland aswell so dont get why anyone would go there needing to be vouched for

See the bit where you claim it seen more than any in Ireland is fcuking ridiculous bit like me claiming my terriers done more than every other terrier in Britain. 

Behave yourself ffs. Lol. 

[Black neck 15,859]

4 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

See the bit where you claim it seen more than any in Ireland is fcuking ridiculous bit like me claiming my terriers done more than every other terrier in Britain. 

Behave yourself ffs. Lol. 

It's nothing 2 do wi race and everything 2 do wi culture 

[chartpolski 23,145]

f**k me ! 
I only posted a picture of a dog that I thought might interest some people……I didn’t mean to start an International Diplomatic Incident ! LOL !

Cheers.

[Black neck 15,859]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

f**k me ! 
I only posted a picture of a dog that I thought might interest some people……I didn’t mean to start an International Diplomatic Incident ! LOL !

Cheers.

You knew what u were doing ffs

[THE STIFFMEISTER 15,696]

45 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

They aren't some mythical beast that's for sure and I've never heard a single Irish man claim that they are because they'd be laughed at if they did, is there plenty of men that like them and their crosses.. Definitely.. Myself included, if your into knocking over foxes with a lurcher then you could do a lot worse than having a wheaten cross, I've seen far more shite bull xs over the years than wheaten xs, only been around a handful of pures some were decent a couple were first class and some were culls and good for no purpose. 

They do though . It’s all nudge nudge wink wink , proper dog . 
 

I think the reality is that the Wheaton was probably a bit special compared to the similar peer breeds . But once the apbt raised its head again , the Wheaton’s capabilities were held to account against a superior animal and looked Poor in reality 

[Elchapo 3,166]

43 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

They aren't some mythical beast that's for sure and I've never heard a single Irish man claim that they are because they'd be laughed at if they did, is there plenty of men that like them and their crosses.. Definitely.. Myself included, if your into knocking over foxes with a lurcher then you could do a lot worse than having a wheaten cross, I've seen far more shite bull xs over the years than wheaten xs, only been around a handful of pures some were decent a couple were first class and some were culls and good for no purpose. 

To be fair I say that because soon as a topic is mentioned about wheatons you get the Irish lads pop up saying the same old thing all the time " still decent lads working them" " still plenty game ones around in the right circles " plenty lads got them but don't let people know " that's all you ever hear about them like only the chosen few are aloud to keep them ... now I don't dout that adding them to a lurcher brings benefits,  I like Wheaton in a lurcher, brings good coat , feet , structure , gameness to name acouple , but so does a bull if right one is used , I have no problem with wheatons or there crosses to behonest I'd like to work a full Wheaton,  but I also would like to work a bull Wheaton,  now depending on what bull or what Wheaton you use they could fo the same thing so people say why fo the cross , simple gor me ,the coat , and appearance,  anyone knowadays can look at a bull and know what it is , ring the plod and you got a bull with working scars/ marks and your in hog water , a wheaton bull x if rough coated would look like a mongrel and probably wouldn't get a second look ,as for shit bull x I've seen more shit bull x than Wheaton crosses but that's simply because genuinely bred half or 3/4 wheatons arnt that common round here , not genuine ones anyway , 

[mr moocher 918]

i like the look of wheaton xs i saw a wheaton x pit a while ago on pigs it was very good imo

[dogmandont 9,799]

35 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

They do though . It’s all nudge nudge wink wink , proper dog . 
 

I think the reality is that the Wheaton was probably a bit special compared to the similar peer breeds . But once the apbt raised its head again , the Wheaton’s capabilities were held to account against a superior animal and looked Poor in reality 

Whole lot of truth in that. 

[Bakerboy 4,650]

Ive had more than a few over the years, pure and crosses, raises properly, socialised and given plenty of interaction with other dogs and they are sound, plenty of bollox talked about them, mainly on internet sites

[Daniel cain 45,060]

They been mixing wheaton and pitbull blood together for yrs....is there still such a thing as a Pure Wheaton these days other than the fluffy kc stuff?

[downsouth 7,201]

5 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

They been mixing wheaton and pitbull blood together for yrs....is there still such a thing as a Pure Wheaton these days other than the fluffy kc stuff?

Doubt it.Even the die hard wheaton lads knew that adding bulldog blood could only improve them

[Daniel cain 45,060]

Just now, downsouth said:

Doubt it.Even the die hard wheaton lads knew that adding bulldog blood could only improve them

Everyone ive known with them,has told me that their dogs have bull blood in em,some even have  ebt apparently

[dogmandont 9,799]

1 minute ago, Daniel cain said:

Everyone ive known with them,has told me that their dogs have bull blood in em,some even have  ebt apparently

The majority of them had Ebt way before they had any pit blood in them. 

I think as far as working dogs go outcrosses have always happened, is there really any true bred of worker that hasn't had something else added over the years even if the Breeders denied it, it's like terrier lads saying there was never any bull in their line but their dogs look like mini pitbulls. 

[Black neck 15,859]

1 hour ago, dogmandont said:

The majority of them had Ebt way before they had any pit blood in them. 

I think as far as working dogs go outcrosses have always happened, is there really any true bred of worker that hasn't had something else added over the years even if the Breeders denied it, it's like terrier lads saying there was never any bull in their line but their dogs look like mini pitbulls. 

It always seems 2 be bull terrier that's added 2 everything even the slop warriors are saturated wi it ,earthdogs, lurchers ,racing greyhounds even man biting dogs now what's next guide dogs for the blind