poxon 5,718 Posted October 28 Author Report Share Posted October 28 31 minutes ago, mC HULL said: get on ebay the lads importing then the cr 500 kx500 can make on them aslong as barrel is good i dont think the cost to much to right Always on eBay sniffing about what I was getting at is you could buy a bike say 2700£ spend about 2k on it and it’s only worth 3k false economy mate 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,159 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 15 minutes ago, poxon said: Always on eBay sniffing about what I was getting at is you could buy a bike say 2700£ spend about 2k on it and it’s only worth 3k false economy mate what would you spend 2k on mate ? new seat cover plastics graphics pads etc don’t cost much the rest is clean paint new bearings seals in the engine maybe rings or new rod only really if crank piston barrel head is shot it gets expensive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poxon 5,718 Posted October 28 Author Report Share Posted October 28 10 minutes ago, mC HULL said: what would you spend 2k on mate ? new seat cover plastics graphics pads etc don’t cost much the rest is clean paint new bearings seals in the engine maybe rings or new rod only really if crank piston barrel head is shot it gets expensive your be surprised mate once you start doing stuff properly using quality parts or using specialist to do stuff for you I could burn 2k easily on building a mx bike that little yz I’ve just done I’ve nearly 2k in restoration on that and that was supposed to be a budget build 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,159 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 2 hours ago, poxon said: your be surprised mate once you start doing stuff properly using quality parts or using specialist to do stuff for you I could burn 2k easily on building a mx bike that little yz I’ve just done I’ve nearly 2k in restoration on that and that was supposed to be a budget build i just use genuine bearings your seal kits gaskets normally mitaka there genuine is always go cast genuine piston over forged were i can but either is cheap con rod 60 ish quid if you true it or 120 if you send it in only think does my head in is sending the barrel off to be oversized re nikasil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 10 hours ago, poxon said: Those little pws seem to hold there money quite well. Least your doing a bit a couple of hours is better than not doing nowt mate. I’m gunna be on the lookout after Xmas is out the way for another mx bike just seems every one for sale they want strong money for them there’s no money in them to restore them a lot of the time you can’t break even your restoring them at a loss Its very easy to get carried away when doing a refurb, God i should know, i have done it times. spent far to much money Lol. There are bargain's to be had, but are getting more difficult to find, This one as i said is for the Grandkids so the money does not really matter, safety is more important, The same with the little KH100 its just for me to keep busy and motivated, The PW50 suffered from "The China Voodoo curse" this morning, fitted a new stator, reg/rectifier, Diode, Run unit and start/stop/run switch. No frigging spark Lol. Tested all the parts, all tested fine, Checked all the plugs and connectors for loose pins and that, Checked the coil and HT lead, cleaned the spark plug, Still no spark, Went and made a cuppa, upon getting back into the shed i thought i would give it another try and it sparked up like a good un. No idea what was wrong Lol. Progressed on a bit further today, Just the front end to do now, The decals have also been removed since this picture was taken, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poxon 5,718 Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 On 28/10/2024 at 19:05, paulus said: Its very easy to get carried away when doing a refurb, God i should know, i have done it times. spent far to much money Lol. There are bargain's to be had, but are getting more difficult to find, This one as i said is for the Grandkids so the money does not really matter, safety is more important, The same with the little KH100 its just for me to keep busy and motivated, The PW50 suffered from "The China Voodoo curse" this morning, fitted a new stator, reg/rectifier, Diode, Run unit and start/stop/run switch. No frigging spark Lol. Tested all the parts, all tested fine, Checked all the plugs and connectors for loose pins and that, Checked the coil and HT lead, cleaned the spark plug, Still no spark, Went and made a cuppa, upon getting back into the shed i thought i would give it another try and it sparked up like a good un. No idea what was wrong Lol. Progressed on a bit further today, Just the front end to do now, The decals have also been removed since this picture was taken, Tell me about it I’m the same mate I like stuff done nice but once you start it’s hard to put something back on a bike that’s not to the standard you’d be satisfied with that’s were the over spending starts with me. That little pw your doing is going to be smart mate your grandkids are lucky 100 agree safety is important get some pictures up once completed mate itd be nice to see. Ill be looking out for another bike to build after Xmas is out the way I fancy building a keeper for my self something completely metal I like the 1999-2002 kx250 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 18 minutes ago, poxon said: Tell me about it I’m the same mate I like stuff done nice but once you start it’s hard to put something back on a bike that’s not to the standard you’d be satisfied with that’s were the over spending starts with me. That little pw your doing is going to be smart mate your grandkids are lucky 100 agree safety is important get some pictures up once completed mate itd be nice to see. Ill be looking out for another bike to build after Xmas is out the way I fancy building a keeper for my self something completely metal I like the 1999-2002 kx250 As i said i have a KH100 to do but i would love a KH250 or bigger but the cost is just not justifiable at the minute. The last DT125 i did a few years ago i went mad on. cost me over two grand without my labour and i lost money on it, If i had somewhere to keep them all i would possibly do them all to that standard but thats just my OCD Lol, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poxon 5,718 Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, paulus said: As i said i have a KH100 to do but i would love a KH250 or bigger but the cost is just not justifiable at the minute. The last DT125 i did a few years ago i went mad on. cost me over two grand without my labour and i lost money on it, If i had somewhere to keep them all i would possibly do them all to that standard but thats just my OCD Lol, That looks mint mateI’m the same i want to keep them all but lack of space means I have to sell one to make space for the next plus it frees up funds to fold in to the next project Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,159 Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 (edited) i more try to put old ones to genuine how you would a bought them ive that 87 ktm 250 well ahead of its time and the japs i’ll try to do standard engine together frame neearly there to start building the rest is cleaning polishing vapour blasting just waiting on bearings for linkage swinging arm some bushes need making on lathe basket case 500 quid then 250 clutch cover hard to find 300 gaskets seals bearings and piston barrel 200 quid i won’t get near 2k cost maybe 25 quid to blast the frame and paint it 2k one i’ll put aftermarket bits on is this cr500 engine into an rmz 450 alloy frame like the pastrana has been a few month getting bits 550 for full rolling chassis rmz 2700 in these billet crankcases with hydraulic clutch conversion brand new one barrel billet 2 piece head with decompression valve billet slave cylinder and forgedpiston then gearbox and most hardware i need 300 quid bar clutch and a crankshaft i still need to sort and all bearing seals etc so should be done well before 5k just cr 500 engines can fetch that Edited October 29 by mC HULL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 10 hours ago, mC HULL said: i more try to put old ones to genuine how you would a bought them ive that 87 ktm 250 well ahead of its time and the japs i’ll try to do standard engine together frame neearly there to start building the rest is cleaning polishing vapour blasting just waiting on bearings for linkage swinging arm some bushes need making on lathe basket case 500 quid then 250 clutch cover hard to find 300 gaskets seals bearings and piston barrel 200 quid i won’t get near 2k cost maybe 25 quid to blast the frame and paint it 2k one i’ll put aftermarket bits on is this cr500 engine into an rmz 450 alloy frame like the pastrana has been a few month getting bits 550 for full rolling chassis rmz 2700 in these billet crankcases with hydraulic clutch conversion brand new one barrel billet 2 piece head with decompression valve billet slave cylinder and forgedpiston then gearbox and most hardware i need 300 quid bar clutch and a crankshaft i still need to sort and all bearing seals etc so should be done well before 5k just cr 500 engines can fetch that This how most of my bikes arrive Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,159 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 22 minutes ago, paulus said: This how most of my bikes arrive Lol best way nothing like sat looking threw parts fiche see what you need lol use to go out with lads had trials bikes when a teen it become quite popular with lampkin didn’t it even a computer game Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poxon 5,718 Posted October 30 Author Report Share Posted October 30 11 hours ago, mC HULL said: i more try to put old ones to genuine how you would a bought them ive that 87 ktm 250 well ahead of its time and the japs i’ll try to do standard engine together frame neearly there to start building the rest is cleaning polishing vapour blasting just waiting on bearings for linkage swinging arm some bushes need making on lathe basket case 500 quid then 250 clutch cover hard to find 300 gaskets seals bearings and piston barrel 200 quid i won’t get near 2k cost maybe 25 quid to blast the frame and paint it 2k one i’ll put aftermarket bits on is this cr500 engine into an rmz 450 alloy frame like the pastrana has been a few month getting bits 550 for full rolling chassis rmz 2700 in these billet crankcases with hydraulic clutch conversion brand new one barrel billet 2 piece head with decompression valve billet slave cylinder and forgedpiston then gearbox and most hardware i need 300 quid bar clutch and a crankshaft i still need to sort and all bearing seals etc so should be done well before 5k just cr 500 engines can fetch that I recon your get close to 2k mate on that ktm if your £1250 deep so far by the time you gone through everything else and all the misc parts but I guess that’s down to what you want to run with or what your happy to go again with. That cr500 build looks mental mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,159 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 2 hours ago, poxon said: I recon your get close to 2k mate on that ktm if your £1250 deep so far by the time you gone through everything else and all the misc parts but I guess that’s down to what you want to run with or what your happy to go again with. That cr500 build looks mental mate maybe mate the old ktm stuff is quite expensive i’ve got 3 ktm 500 engines i’ve got cheap but all need magnesium clutch vcover there like 500 quid without import charges i’ll put up as when i get bits engine done frame is just rebuild forks wheels linkages next few week be a month at least before i start the cr be cutting welding making brackets to fit the engine first i’ll update as i go along mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 9 hours ago, mC HULL said: best way nothing like sat looking threw parts fiche see what you need lol use to go out with lads had trials bikes when a teen it become quite popular with lampkin didn’t it even a computer game Most trials bikes are a pain in the arse as they all suffer with the same issues. Beta use shit carbs, they purchased a job lot years ago from Mikuni and fitted them to all there bikes for years. They were shite, Pissed fuel everywhere as the vacuum pipe design was flawed and would not start unless the bike was on a flat surface, The old Aprilia climber and the old Gas Gas were hard to beat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
downsouth 7,151 Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 Had my new expansion pipe arrive last week so got it straight off to be Cerakoted and picked it up today.Hopefully get it fitted this weekend so I can get booked in for a Dyno.only found out a couple of weeks back that there's a fella pretty local who does vapourblasting and Cerakote.Wish I'd known before I had loads of parts powdercoated 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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