DIDO.1 22,815 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 21 minutes ago, Arry said: Because the question was would you fight for your country. I said Hypothetically Russia that all. Cheers Arry Fair enough. No I wouldn't for the same reasons above Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,815 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 As far as I'm concerned I am fighting for my country. Every time I teach my kids to be racially aware, every time I go see polititions and tell em what I think, every time I marched with nationalist groups and every donation I make to PA 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,825 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, WILF said: My old man would never buy a poppy. He volunteered at 16 in 1936, was sent over with the ill prepared BEF to France, got left behind like many others to fight rearguard while lads got off the beach at Dunkirk and was captured. Spent 5 years in Lamsdorf and at the end, along with all those other lads, was forced to do what is now known as the Long March or Death March. Walked a 1000km to Germany in the coldest winter for decades in January 1945 and was eventually picked by the Americans. A jeep they were in hit a land mine and my dads pal was killed and my old man badly wounded, flew him home on a stripped out Dakota (he would never get on a plane again) and when he recovered he naturally said “I want to go home now” Their answer was “No!”……because he was a volunteer they said he wasn’t allowed to go home. So, he pretended to be nuts until they slung him out…..not so much as a new suit and a thank you, just a good old fashioned “f**k off” I guess some things never change mate. and your dad was one of the lucky ones. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 7,021 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Welp this is rather intresting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Wolfdog91 said: Welp this is rather intresting Do you find it strange ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,502 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 russia ain’t ever going to invade this shitty little island or anyone else for that matter all any country has to do is sit back smile at our own ruining the c**t 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfdog91 7,021 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 18 minutes ago, WILF said: Do you find it strange ? Yes No Not really sure 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,444 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Wolfdog91 said: Welp this is rather intresting This place isn’t like the good old US of A mate.I know an Iranian,Filipinos,Indians,Lebanese immigrants in the states who say “Proud to be American” haven’t heard it in the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 3 minutes ago, mackem said: This place isn’t like the good old US of A mate.I know an Iranian,Filipinos,Indians,Lebanese immigrants in the states who say “Proud to be American” haven’t heard it in the UK. Different characters though don’t you think mate, we are a bit more “May as well have a mug of tea, jobs f****d” than “Thank you for your service” and a fly over of F14s don’t you think ? 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,122 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 (edited) I found it quite a thought provoking question. There was a time I would have instantly answered the call to arms. The country and government were not perfect but is any? The last Labour government changed that in my opinion. They were the ones who began to break this broken Britain and subsequent Conservatives have done nothing to fix it, the opposite in fact. Broke the country even more. Would I now answer the call? Well, I am slightly passed my prime but as it is a theoretical question I had to think about it. Would I want to fight to protect what this country has become? Probably not. But do I despise our leaders enough to be a conscientious objector and go to prison (or whatever the consequences would be) whilst my fellow countrymen fought and died? No, I could not do that. I would fight if needed. The next dilemma, do I take my .177 Pro Sport with its flatter trajectory and greater accuracy or opt for the .22 Daystate Huntsman with its better stopping power? Edited January 25 by eastcoast countrymen not country 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,811 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, eastcoast said: I found it quite a thought provoking question. There was a time I would have instantly answered the call to arms. The country and government were not perfect but is any? The last Labour government changed that in my opinion. They were the ones who began to break this broken Britain and subsequent Conservatives have done nothing to fix it, the opposite in fact. Broke the country even more. Would I now answer the call? Well, I am slightly passed my prime but as it is a theoretical question I had to think about it. Would I want to fight to protect what this country has become? Probably not. But do I despise our leaders enough to be a conscientious objector and go to prison (or whatever the consequences would be) whilst my fellow country fought and died? No, I could not do that. I would fight if needed. The next dilemma, do I take my .177 Pro Sport with its flatter trajectory and greater accuracy or opt for the .22 Daystate Huntsman with its better stopping power? Whippet Cross ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,444 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, WILF said: Different characters though don’t you think mate, we are a bit more “May as well have a mug of tea, jobs f****d” than “Thank you for your service” and a fly over of F14s don’t you think ? This time last year I was in Orange County,a place called Corona Del Mar,incredible place,you could smell the money.I chatted to a few illegal Mexicans who wanted to live the American dream and get citizenship,that part of the country inspires confidence,and they love cops,in the UK it’s ACAB and they aren’t particularly liked let’s be honest,over there they are respected and the military get veterans discounts on things ranging from fishing and hunting licences to certain property tax exemptions.Different attitudes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,122 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 23 hours ago, paulus said: Our army is roughly 70.000 strong, MI5 currently have around 80.000 people of interest in relation to the possibility of Terrorist threats in this Country, I believe our Army is currently where it needs to be, Perhaps all Immigrants should have to do five years national service before being granted British Citizenship. A sort of English Foreign Legion. Spooky when I read this. I had just been reading history of the French Foreign Legion again and the thought popped into my head, should we conscript these immigrants and put them to the test to find out how much they valued attaining British citizenship? The Romans offered the same opportunity 1000's years earlier. Then I thought... should be be arming these people and training them to fight properly? Probably not. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 13 minutes ago, eastcoast said: Spooky when I read this. I had just been reading history of the French Foreign Legion again and the thought popped into my head, should we conscript these immigrants and put them to the test to find out how much they valued attaining British citizenship? The Romans offered the same opportunity 1000's years earlier. Then I thought... should be be arming these people and training them to fight properly? Probably not. Pound to a penny most can already field strip and reassemble an AK47 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 I think a sad reality that very few people would be willing to acknowledge is that most of us normal blokes would readily fight with and for each other.......but not for the place our lands have become and the people who would benefit from our possible demise. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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