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1 minute ago, Pardus said:

No, he announced his joing just after beating Liston in the February of 64, the proper escalation of Vietnam happened in the August of that year, draft calls came even later.

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It’s like this, when the school bully comes to take your dinner money….America is the biggest, meanest, nastiest big brother waiting outside the play ground for that bully after school ! Let’s du

I would give my left bollock to have a leader who says we are going to put the British people first, bring back industries,  and stop other countries ripping us off and actually does it. Common sense

I like the guy ok I guess, the cult of personality he's getting is weird as f**k though....then again I don't understand people who basically worship political figures and act like they have no faults

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1 minute ago, waltjnr said:

Many ways to define a coward ,doing something your comfortable with ,ie getting in the ring ,doesn't make you brave ,we lost what I'd call a brave man this week paddy hemingway

Neither does going to war with militaristic advantages, you can't have it both ways. The worst outcome for both is death, so, what's the difference?

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3 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Neither does going to war with militaristic advantages, you can't have it both ways. The worst outcome for both is death, so, what's the difference?

Well I respect the likes of paddy ,I don't have the same respect for someone who chose to take up a sport ,happened to be good at it ,I might admire their dedication to there hobby ,lawn bowls ,boxing ,ping pong what ever 

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3 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Well I respect the likes of paddy ,I don't have the same respect for someone who chose to take up a sport ,happened to be good at it ,I might admire their dedication to there hobby ,lawn bowls ,boxing ,ping pong what ever 

Each to their own, but you risk your life whenever you step into the ring and you are guaranteed to take life changing punishment. You can't question their courage, Ali was a superstar by the time he was called for Vietnam, he'd made his opinion quite clear on the war.  There's no way he would have had a fighting role in the war anyway, but let's go along with him refusing to go to Vietnam out of cowardice.

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18 minutes ago, Pardus said:

Each to their own, but you risk your life whenever you step into the ring and you are guaranteed to take life changing punishment. You can't question their courage, Ali was a superstar by the time he was called for Vietnam, he'd made his opinion quite clear on the war.  There's no way he would have had a fighting role in the war anyway, but let's go along with him refusing to go to Vietnam out of cowardice.

Choose to get into the ring ,choose to jump out of a plane ,choose to drive a car 200mph round a track ,not the same as a fireman going into a burning building, doing he's job 

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1 minute ago, waltjnr said:

Choose to get into the ring ,choose to jump out of a plane ,choose to drive a car 200mph round a track ,not the same as a fireman going into a burning building, doing he's job 

or a roofer going on a roof everyday much more chance of something bad happening then a boxer 

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Or a network rail worker ,sleeping in a van on night shift ,must be terrible for the back ,especially if their not getting enough fibre ,constipation issues ,

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5 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Choose to get into the ring ,choose to jump out of a plane ,choose to drive a car 200mph round a track ,not the same as a fireman going into a burning building, doing he's job 

He chose to be a fireman, nobody forced him.

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2 minutes ago, waltjnr said:

Or a network rail worker ,sleeping in a van on night shift ,must be terrible for the back ,especially if their not getting enough fibre ,constipation issues ,

I should be given a George Cross putting my life at risk just so you can get from A to B.

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11 hours ago, Pardus said:

Yeah, I wouldn't dodge draft, would you? You sure you're not half french pal? 

i would i wouldnt go fight for starmer and the wef are you f***ing mad lol 

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1 minute ago, waltjnr said:

Chose to take up boxing ,entertainment for far richer ,a puppet ,chasing fame and fortune, unlike the fireman ,soldier, ect ect ,roofer ,

They all choose to be firemen, boxers, soldiers. Roofers FFS, this gets better.. lol

I know which is more taxing on the body, if you're a roofer you're either in perfect health or you might risk a fall at height. Boxers step in to the ring knowing that they're almost certain to take life changing punishment, big difference. 

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