chartpolski 23,162 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 6 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: To be fair I wouldn’t want a dog grabbing a deer by the ears on a regular basis, I imagine you’d lose a lot with that kind of style, the one I mentioned was just a one off really I’m not saying it’s the best way, I’m just amazed how so many of their dogs instinctively go for an ear hold. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,233 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 12 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I’m not saying it’s the best way, I’m just amazed how so many of their dogs instinctively go for an ear hold. Cheers. from breeding from dogs that ear hold from the start you recon chart something they wanting in there dogs ? Quote Link to post
chartpolski 23,162 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: from breeding from dogs that ear hold from the start you recon chart something they wanting in there dogs ? To be honest, I don’t know if it’s hereditary in the dogs or taught. I’m not sure how you would teach a dog to ear hold…..I have enough trouble teaching them to retrieve! LOL ! Cheers. 1 1 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 For what it’s worth & just my opinion, I think technique on deer is definitely genetic. If you breed from 2 dogs that are natural throat dogs then it’s fairly likely that’s the style the pups will have, and the same applies if you breed from 2 arse grabbers. I’ve heard a lot of people saying about pulling dogs off the back end and putting them on the throat but I think that’s nonsense. 2 Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,574 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 Ear hold, my opinion for what its worth. Pigs have only two places a dog can keep a good hold the ear and the lower leg ie hock hoof area. Lower leg hold the dog will take serious damage so its a no brainer which hold they will go for. 2 Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,703 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, Black neck said: I'd be in like flyn Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 53 minutes ago, joe ox said: Ear hold, my opinion for what its worth. Pigs have only two places a dog can keep a good hold the ear and the lower leg ie hock hoof area. Lower leg hold the dog will take serious damage so its a no brainer which hold they will go for. Back when it was legal, Back of the neck and then the dog just sits down and holds it, Lower leg and it will come back over itself and lock onto the dogs face causing nasty wounds. The Back of the neck is not always possible, given they fight mainly on there backs so the ear gives the dog relative safety, Quote Link to post
Havelightforcewilltravel 417 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: it had finished it before we got there from the front lol it’s grabbed it were it can while on a lead if you look mate proud as punch another out and out coursing dog black bitch was from lol First picture looks deceiving 1 Quote Link to post
Havelightforcewilltravel 417 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Deerhunter1 said: For what it’s worth & just my opinion, I think technique on deer is definitely genetic. If you breed from 2 dogs that are natural throat dogs then it’s fairly likely that’s the style the pups will have, and the same applies if you breed from 2 arse grabbers. I’ve heard a lot of people saying about pulling dogs off the back end and putting them on the throat but I think that’s nonsense. A think when starting a dog off if he keeps grabbing arse end taking them off and putting them on throat helps, but once they had few they need to work it out themselves and arse grabbers going to get towed if taking Roe upwards. 2 Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,574 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, paulus said: Back when it was legal, Back of the neck and then the dog just sits down and holds it, Lower leg and it will come back over itself and lock onto the dogs face causing nasty wounds. The Back of the neck is not always possible, given they fight mainly on there backs so the ear gives the dog relative safety, Basically what I said then. I have a couple of wild boar x tamworth pigs, the size of the males head and jaw is four times the size of any dog. They finish big knuckle bones easy that the half x bulls have give up on, scary jaw power Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,039 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, joe ox said: Yes some dogs just know how to get a deer under control they make their job look really easy, brains and technique. I agree joe but sometimes those bigger critters just don't play ball then you find out what you do really own I have carried of the field experienced dogs that havent run for a good while after such a encounter it's alright catching them it's what happens after 3 Quote Link to post
jackthelad 1,893 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, Deerhunter1 said: For what it’s worth & just my opinion, I think technique on deer is definitely genetic. If you breed from 2 dogs that are natural throat dogs then it’s fairly likely that’s the style the pups will have, and the same applies if you breed from 2 arse grabbers. I’ve heard a lot of people saying about pulling dogs off the back end and putting them on the throat but I think that’s nonsense. The more they do the more they learn do them regular the dog soon learns the business end ….. Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,574 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 27 minutes ago, Blackmag said: I agree joe but sometimes those bigger critters just don't play ball then you find out what you do really own I have carried of the field experienced dogs that havent run for a good while after such a encounter it's alright catching them it's what happens after Some critters just stop running turn around to face the music. 1 Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,039 Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, joe ox said: Some critters just stop running turn around to face the music. It's those sorts that tell you what you have in your yard when it turns sour I have seen some good dogs on all teeth not fancy it when running along side a big critter that turns seen a few ruined after such a encounter 2 Quote Link to post
joe ox 2,574 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 5 minutes ago, Blackmag said: It's those sorts that tell you what you have in your yard when it turns sour I have seen some good dogs on all teeth not fancy it when running along side a big critter that turns seen a few ruined after such a encounter They also seem to instinctively sense if the dog behind them means business or is half hearted about its job. 1 Quote Link to post
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