jukel123 8,793 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, mackem said: No,I have been and walked the very beaches they launch from,you can almost smell the milk and honey emanating from the UK,but I have also been past lunar house in Croydon and oftentimes Eaton House in Hounslow,I see beyond what’s shown on TV,I know 4 immigration lawyer offices within 2 miles of Eaton House,all Asian lawyers,there might be more in the Indian small business office complex nicknamed Delhi house in Feltham,there’s a lot more than boat people flooding in but they are the most visible,showing them on TV is a distraction technique from the soft invasion that’s genuinely happening. That's my point exactly mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,736 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, jukel123 said: That's my point exactly mate. As a country old bean I feel the UK is well beyond f****d,no exaggeration no histrionics,just fact IMHO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,820 Posted December 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 46 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: Turn them around like the austrailians did and keep doing it until they get the message, any that do get thru no benifits or handouts like Portugal told them From what I’ve read on the push back tactics it’s not a simple solution. Agree with movement on the benefits side. Remove the incentives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, jukel123 said: I have more than a suspicion that the government tips The Daily Mail to get photographers onto the beaches to photograph the boat people so as to hide the fact that illegal immigration via the backs of lorries, aircraft and visas is much, much greater. Not to mention the astronomical legal immigration figures even after brexit. It's an image which fires people up so that they see invaders, but disguises the fact that they are a drop in the ocean. Pun intended. The figures are very vague, The ONS said just over 750.000 came here legally last year, But then the student visa figures say 850.000 plus there relatives!. if they all bring say a minimum of two relatives that's 850.000 + 1.700.000 + 750.000 plus the illegal's, So a minimum of 3.3 million legal plus say 400.000 as a conservative estimate for illegals, Giving a grand total of 3.7 million or roughly a 5% increase in our population. No wonder we have an housing crisis, a crisis in the NHS and dentists, Plus our infrastructure can not cope with those numbers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,793 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulus said: The figures are very vague, The ONS said just over 750.000 came here legally last year, But then the student visa figures say 850.000 plus there relatives!. if they all bring say a minimum of two relatives that's 850.000 + 1.700.000 + 750.000 plus the illegal's, So a minimum of 3.3 million legal plus say 400.000 as a conservative estimate for illegals, Giving a grand total of 3.7 million or roughly a 5% increase in our population. No wonder we have an housing crisis, a crisis in the NHS and dentists, Plus our infrastructure can not cope with those numbers. The figures aren't vague. They are unmanageable. Theres no plan to deal with this number . Our own young people are struggling with extortionate rents, no fault eviction, crap wages and shit NHS care. So, spin doctor alert, lets blame the country's crisis on the black, foreign invaders. A small proportion of the total number of immigrants. The boat people from France increased phenomenally after brexit. Instead of re arranging the deck chairs and the Rawanda gimmick, why don't we throw money and diplomatic pressure at the french and get them to deal with the problem at source so that we don't have to. The fact that everybody is in a panic at the dinghies plays into the government's hands and deflects from their total incompetence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, jukel123 said: The figures aren't vague. They are unmanageable. Theres no plan to deal with this number . Our own young people are struggling with extortionate rents, no fault eviction, crap wages and shit NHS care. So, spin doctor alert, lets blame the country's crisis on the black, foreign invaders. A small proportion of the total number of immigrants. The boat people from France increased phenomenally after brexit. Instead of re arranging the deck chairs and the Rawanda gimmick, why don't we throw money and diplomatic pressure at the french and get them to deal with the problem at source so that we don't have to. The fact that everybody is in a panic at the dinghies plays into the government's hands and deflects from their total incompetence. There is no plan to deal with them because they don't want to deal with them, The treasury sees £ signs, the more that come the more £`s they see, I keep saying this, our level debt is the issue. the same all over the western world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jukel123 8,793 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, paulus said: There is no plan to deal with them because they don't want to deal with them, The treasury sees £ signs, the more that come the more £`s they see, I keep saying this, our level debt is the issue. the same all over the western world. Yep, immigration is a very low level priority. The more immigrants, the more they drive down wages and conditions and deflect from the governments incompetence. So people fight like rats in a sack . Result. Edited December 19, 2023 by jukel123 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, jukel123 said: Yep, immigration is a very low level priority. The more immigrants, the more they drive down wages and conditions and deflect from their incompetence. So people fight like rats in a sack . Result. Its that obvious mate, people don't see it. Migrants can be paid 20% less than the minimum wage. The indigenous population is discriminated against. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mackem 27,736 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, jukel123 said: The more immigrants, the more they drive down wages I spoke to illegal immigrant workers at the beginning of the year who were on $120 a day labouring in construction in California,£100? a day,ok wedge for illegals still wet from crossing the Rio grande. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 2,843 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, mackem said: I spoke to illegal immigrant workers at the beginning of the year who were on $120 a day labouring in construction in California,£100? a day,ok wedge for illegals still wet from crossing the Rio grande. what do they call them ..."wetbacks"..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,736 Posted December 19, 2023 Report Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, ditchman said: what do they call them ..."wetbacks"..? That’s the ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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