EARTHDOG JRASAMUYR BORDER 5 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 I work Border Terriers and have done so since 1997. I can be followed on facebook https://www.(!64.56:886/profile.php?id=100064269806228 I do breed and also managed to breed the 2022 Crufts Best in Breed Border Terrier Puppy who 3 weeks prior to the show brought down a 30kg chevreuil/deer. I work below and above ground. This years achievement was to breed the only Kennel Club CIT Champion International Travail-work on Fox which Nina did in Slovakia. I work my dogs all over Europe. Earthwork is in venerie sous terre. I breed to standard and keep fit for function. I am not a man also! 5 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,372 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 I’d love a border , I should really have border terriers , all my mates at home had them growing up and up until a few years ago I was constantly offered one from litters being bred by pals . the trouble is that they are f***ing articles , I use that term lightly , but they aren’t a proper terrier imho . You can’t compare them to a patterdale , a Russell or a border / Lakie . They just haven’t got that drive in them . 1 Quote Link to post
Bakerboy 4,221 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I’d love a border , I should really have border terriers , all my mates at home had them growing up and up until a few years ago I was constantly offered one from litters being bred by pals . the trouble is that they are f***ing articles , I use that term lightly , but they aren’t a proper terrier imho . You can’t compare them to a patterdale , a Russell or a border / Lakie . They just haven’t got that drive in them . Were all your mates Borders shit then mate, if they were what were they doing breeding from/out of them, percentage wise there's very few working Borders around now but they are out there, that dog at the top of the second page was the equal of most terriers and better than most that I've seen Black, Chocolate, Red Black and Tan or White, rare as rocking horse shit but they are about, and that dog was a digging dog, not a ratter, busher or fox bolting dog Edited December 29, 2023 by Bakerboy 4 Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,372 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Bakerboy said: Were all your mates Borders shit then mate, if they were what were they doing breeding from/out of them, percentage wise there's very few working Borders around now but they are out there, that dog at the top of the second page was the equal of most terriers and better than most that I've seen Black, Chocolate, Red Black and Tan or White, rare as rocking horse shit but they are about, and that dog was a digging dog, not a ratter, busher or fox bolting dog You’ve just hit the nail on the head with that line . “percentage wise there’s very few working borders “ the reality is they are a wee dog tidy for a pensioner or walking the hills with , they aren’t a proper digging dog are they ? Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 37 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: You’ve just hit the nail on the head with that line . “percentage wise there’s very few working borders “ the reality is they are a wee dog tidy for a pensioner or walking the hills with , they aren’t a proper digging dog are they ? Have admit i have seen one, Absolute horrible cnut with anything on four legs but could do the job that's for sure. Quote Link to post
Bakerboy 4,221 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: they aren’t a proper digging dog are they ? The good 1s are but as a breed no they've been neglected for far too long, why were your mates breeding from non workers mate Quote Link to post
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,372 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: The good 1s are but as a breed no they've been neglected for far too long, why were your mates breeding from non workers mate They weren’t what you’d call workers mate , more for ratching at things , I had 3 or 4 mates with a few between them , they were just country dogs in a way , nothing special at all . I find them a bit beige in character compared to other terriers Quote Link to post
Bakerboy 4,221 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I find them a bit beige in character compared to other terriers I used to think the same 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 Horses for courses springs to mind, If every terrier breed worked the same then there would only be a need for one, Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,267 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I find them a bit beige in character compared to other terriers I'm no expert on them but I've had a few and the ones off proper stuff aren't beige they're mental and are a different animal to the pet bred types. 7 Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,667 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 5 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: I’d love a border , I should really have border terriers , all my mates at home had them growing up and up until a few years ago I was constantly offered one from litters being bred by pals . the trouble is that they are f***ing articles , I use that term lightly , but they aren’t a proper terrier imho . You can’t compare them to a patterdale , a Russell or a border / Lakie . They just haven’t got that drive in them . Mine were c**ts for even flushing or senting deer just as good as any gun dog for nose.So you might be looking at the wrong ones mate.When ya have a goodun you won’t go back,and when ya have 1 or 2 in that’s to hard pisses ya off as ya don’t get many digs a year or end up with a dead dog. 2 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 44,410 Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 17 hours ago, gnipper said: I'm no expert on them but I've had a few and the ones off proper stuff aren't beige they're mental and are a different animal to the pet bred types. Mates of mine bred a litter,just after the ban came in,9 pups ,all bar 1 bitch went to digging homes...not 1 dog or bitch made it past 3/4 yr old, they had no fear of anything you put in front of em...used to make me cringe, honestly when we broke through to them and you seen the shape on them when you get one that grafts,and settles down,they as good as any black/chocolate dog....money and egos is whats f****d the borders.... Folks dont want to see a £1000/£800 dog lose its chin first time it goes to ground....anyone who says they no good,aint seen a good un sorry 11 Quote Link to post
Bakerboy 4,221 Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel cain said: when you get one that grafts,and settles down,they as good as any black/chocolate dog....money and egos is whats f****d the borders.... Folks dont want to see a £1000/£800 dog lose its chin first time it goes to ground....anyone who says they no good,aint seen a good un sorry Quote Link to post
Stormer 23 Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 On 28/12/2023 at 15:54, lurchers said: This is the only bitch I have now but I haven’t done nowt with her.She’s been on a couple of digs and mixed in ok Smart looking bitch!! 1 Quote Link to post
Stormer 23 Posted January 1 Author Report Share Posted January 1 On 28/12/2023 at 18:34, lurchers said: That’s the dog that’s going over her mate,I had to give him back to the lad I got him off when I split from the ex Strong looking male, very nice! 1 Quote Link to post
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