Boots,Bear & Rose..

[mC HULL 12,423]

i agree for a moocher a good coursing bred will be to highly strung end up been a nightmare for ya 

[Backandbeyond 104]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

what would a deerhound grey bring to a good coursing bred tats what improvement ? size if that’s an improvement you wanted i can’t think of out else 

Definitely would boost the height and overall size that's needed to bring down certain quarry easier and safer imo. No doubt adding deerhound into the mix with good coursing blood imo would produce a well proportioned animal, strong boned and fit for purpose. 

[tatsblisters 9,578]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

i agree for a moocher a good coursing bred will be to highly strung end up been a nightmare for ya 

Theirs no denying though mate the saluki hybrid sire has got some outstanding coursing blood in it and from dogs that must have had wind and a good mouth due to the amount of hare's they put away when they were about .

 

[mC HULL 12,423]

19 minutes ago, Backandbeyond said:

Definitely would boost the height and overall size that's needed to bring down certain quarry easier and safer imo. No doubt adding deerhound into the mix with good coursing blood imo would produce a well proportioned animal, strong boned and fit for purpose. 

but for a deer dog saluki bred you’d want 26tts or more and strong anyway there’s loads like that about 

fuji seems to do what he wanted and that’s like male coursing bred would he need more size ?

[Backandbeyond 104]

11 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

but for a deer dog saluki bred you’d want 26tts or more and strong anyway there’s loads like that about 

fuji seems to do what he wanted and that’s like male coursing bred would he need more size ?

In my experience, i'd have to say for the big stuff on big hills, the bigger/taller the better would be an advantage in certain situations. Don't get me wrong, dogs can and do the job around 26tts-28tts (the dogs I've ran over the years) but a few additional inches more of dog height and overall dog leg, imo, would likely eat up sections of ground where it could mean the difference between wrapping the chase up and ending it sooner rather than later or the quarry getting the advantage over the dog as can often happen when the course crosses a mixture of terrain. Just my opinion of course but I think this type of cross, the deerhound saluki greyhound with quality blood from both sides could really produce a dog fit for purpose for bigger quarry on the big open high places.

Cheers 

[tatsblisters 9,578]

20 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

but for a deer dog saluki bred you’d want 26tts or more and strong anyway there’s loads like that about 

fuji seems to do what he wanted and that’s like male coursing bred would he need more size ?

Maybe it's a thicker coat and tougher skin as hunting them hills were his dogs ain't on slipps and jacketed up waiting for a run I would think thin coated dogs would loose condition quicker than a dog with a good coat. 

[mC HULL 12,423]

1 minute ago, Backandbeyond said:

In my experience, i'd have to say for the big stuff on big hills, the bigger/taller the better would be an advantage in certain situations. Don't get me wrong, dogs can and do the job around 26tts-28tts (the dogs I've ran over the years) but a few additional inches more of dog height and overall dog leg, imo, would likely eat up sections of ground where it could mean the difference between wrapping the chase up and ending it sooner rather than later or the quarry getting the advantage over the dog as can often happen when the course crosses a mixture of terrain. Just my opinion of course but I think this type of cross, the deerhound saluki greyhound with quality blood from both sides could really produce a dog fit for purpose for bigger quarry on the big open high places.

Cheers 

adding the deerhound blood will give you that extra half a foot 

deerhound had that big stride reading the ground well sort of running style aswell 

 

good post 

[mC HULL 12,423]

2 minutes ago, tatsblisters said:

Maybe it's a thicker coat and tougher skin as hunting them hills were his dogs ain't on slipps and jacketed up waiting for a run I would think thin coated dogs would loose condition quicker than a dog with a good coat. 

smooth id agree but some feathered aint just feathered ears and tail they have good coats on them  and in winter winter coat been out there it would be as good as a deerhound jacket easily 

[white van man 3,309]

Good thread this so hopefully it keeps going. Never had a crack at this type of hunting and I’m no expert with any type of cross that suits. Size, weight and grit would make sense. Until you see the size of these animals up close and the power they have running then that’s  when you can appreciate a dog that would even get up close. A dog would be no comparison in weight and would potentially be connecting with the quarry at full pace. I would imagine that would take a special dog. Risk of injury to the dog when in a really remote place would also need to be considered. I’ve always wondered how people used to then butcher the quarry and carry it off the hill? 
Being on the hills is probably my favourite type of hunting but I would never expect my dogs to pull this off. 
 

[Black neck 15,898]

7 hours ago, mC HULL said:

lamping running what gets up a good coursing bred makes it look easy i think mate

What running off like

[TOMO 26,099]

On 13/07/2024 at 15:34, white van man said:

Good thread this so hopefully it keeps going. Never had a crack at this type of hunting and I’m no expert with any type of cross that suits. Size, weight and grit would make sense. Until you see the size of these animals up close and the power they have running then that’s  when you can appreciate a dog that would even get up close. A dog would be no comparison in weight and would potentially be connecting with the quarry at full pace. I would imagine that would take a special dog. Risk of injury to the dog when in a really remote place would also need to be considered. I’ve always wondered how people used to then butcher the quarry and carry it off the hill? 
Being on the hills is probably my favourite type of hunting but I would never expect my dogs to pull this off. 
 

Butchering....just take the best bits mate...

[white van man 3,309]

9 hours ago, TOMO said:

Butchering....just take the best bits mate...

Still a fair weight to be humping around Tomo! I suppose if you camped out up there then the dogs could have a good feed too. 

[tatsblisters 9,578]

10 hours ago, TOMO said:

Butchering....just take the best bits mate...

Make sense for big deer .

[mC HULL 12,423]

3 hours ago, white van man said:

Still a fair weight to be humping around Tomo! I suppose if you camped out up there then the dogs could have a good feed too. 

backstraps couple a legs for me

[vin 76]

Only problem with the Deerhound types these days is finding a line that’s actually working types.  
lots of show ponies out there these days. 
I must admit I’ve always loved the deerhound types. 
I once went lamping with a lad 30” tts deerhound type. 
I can honestly say it suprised me immensely how easy it caught the bunnies.  
obviously it was wasted on such an inferior challenge.