Peter4190 85 Posted December 5, 2023 Report Share Posted December 5, 2023 Are there any planned litters of some good pot fillers not after anything with bull in it or maybe a very small dash thanks Pete 1 Quote Link to post
Whoknows 163 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Hard to beat a bit of bull for anything. See the ‘don’t want any bull posts’ a lot. Is there any reason ? Obviously a half x might be a bit heavy. But don’t think you can beat a saluki bull grey or collie bull grey for most things. 6 Quote Link to post
terryd 8,409 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Whoknows said: Hard to beat a bit of bull for anything. See the ‘don’t want any bull posts’ a lot. Is there any reason ? Obviously a half x might be a bit heavy. But don’t think you can beat a saluki bull grey or collie bull grey for most things. I guess they can be a lot of dog. Going by my previous experience with the last one who was only a 1/4. From the moment he had his jabs he was up for anything. Ferrets for example were hard work but he was bomb proof at the end. But even then it was more of a tolerance rather than best buddies. Compared to the collie cross I now have who took zero effort with ferrets and I mean zero. Just good from day one. She is just as keen as the old fella for what I want catch though. Old fella also gave me issues with sheep and dogs. He is just one example so unfair to judge you see plenty on here never put foot wrong. They are all different and we all want different things. I just want easy chilled life now so they are too much for me. The poor sods also can lead shite life because they are up for anything they attract the idiots 1 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Whoknows said: Hard to beat a bit of bull for anything. See the ‘don’t want any bull posts’ a lot. Is there any reason ? Obviously a half x might be a bit heavy. But don’t think you can beat a saluki bull grey or collie bull grey for most things. Just personal preference I’d imagine, and the type of running you’re doing, some of the best dogs I’ve seen for edible game didn’t have a drop of bull in their make up. For the lamping man id agree a saluki x bull x grey is ideal but if most of my running was daytime I’d stay clear of bull blood. Just one persons opinion not trying to kick off a big debate Edited December 6, 2023 by Deerhunter1 1 Quote Link to post
Whoknows 163 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, terryd said: I guess they can be a lot of dog. Going by my previous experience with the last one who was only a 1/4. From the moment he had his jabs he was up for anything. Ferrets for example were hard work but he was bomb proof at the end. But even then it was more of a tolerance rather than best buddies. Compared to the collie cross I now have who took zero effort with ferrets and I mean zero. Just good from day one. She is just as keen as the old fella for what I want catch though. Old fella also gave me issues with sheep and dogs. He is just one example so unfair to judge you see plenty on here never put foot wrong. They are all different and we all want different things. I just want easy chilled life now so they are too much for me. The poor sods also can lead shite life because they are up for anything they attract the idiots Aye true enough I guess. Mind, I expect the collie x knew the ferret would win. They can deffo be high drive but in general I’ve found bull types very trainable, smart and biddable. And also, quite straight forward. Some of the collie xs I’ve seen were just overly mental too many foibles and issues for me Agree on most of your points though 2 Quote Link to post
jeemes 4,481 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 The best ferreting dog I ever had was a generation half Bull x Greyhound. A natural from the first day out. 2 Quote Link to post
Whoknows 163 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 25 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said: Just personal preference I’d imagine, and the type of running you’re doing, some of the best dogs I’ve seen for edible game didn’t have a drop of bull in their make up. For the lamping man id agree a saluki x bull x grey is ideal but if most of my running was daytime I’d stay clear of bull blood. Just one persons opinion not trying to kick off a big debate Aye probably right. I see it a lot specifically with bull, but rarely see anyone say ‘no deerhound’ or ‘no Beddy’. I’ve seen good dogs of all sorts of breeding and just as many crap ones of the same breeding. I do a pretty even split of both, and have found the bull type mongrel things seem to tick the boxes both ways, so aye it’s just personal preference. Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Whoknows said: Aye probably right. I see it a lot specifically with bull, but rarely see anyone say ‘no deerhound’ or ‘no Beddy’. I’ve seen good dogs of all sorts of breeding and just as many crap ones of the same breeding. I do a pretty even split of both, and have found the bull type mongrel things seem to tick the boxes both ways, so aye it’s just personal preference. It’s probably just because these days unless you’re going for a purpose bred hare killer or a rabbit specialist every litter seems to have bull in somewhere along the line, it’s not to common to see deerhound in pups now, probably got good reason but that’s another story Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,238 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 If your just after rabbits then any x will catch them(smaller,faster the better)...but if rabbits are thin on the ground,you will need a dog with a bit more about it... personally I like a dog,that will have a go at what ever is put in front of it,day or night.... couldn't feed a dog that was only good for one thing...who wants to see shit running off in to the distance and a dog stood looking at you? 9 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Daniel cain said: If your just after rabbits then any x will catch them(smaller,faster the better)...but if rabbits are thin on the ground,you will need a dog with a bit more about it... personally I like a dog,that will have a go at what ever is put in front of it,day or night.... couldn't feed a dog that was only good for one thing...who wants to see shit running off in to the distance and a dog stood looking at you? Agree with that, but to be honest even a little rabbit type dog shouldn’t just stand and watch things run away, if it’s got that attitude with other things it’ll probably start picking its runs on rabbits eventually Quote Link to post
Peter4190 85 Posted December 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Ian not saying no bull but just not with too much in it, I do want a dog that will have a go at most stuff an not made my mind up 100% even what breeding to go for Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,725 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Peter4190 said: Ian not saying no bull but just not with too much in it, I do want a dog that will have a go at most stuff an not made my mind up 100% even what breeding to go for Whippet/greyhound. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,421 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 50 minutes ago, shaaark said: Whippet/greyhound. good when there not laid up mate good un put meat on the table but you have to molly coddle em don’t ya Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,725 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, mC HULL said: good when there not laid up mate good un put meat on the table but you have to molly coddle em don’t ya I wouldn't say molly coddle, exactly, but be a bit sensible, when you can. Owned a couple in the past, that served me very well. I found them extremely keen, honest, genuine triers, that were afraid of nothing, and were very easy to live with. 2 Quote Link to post
Whispering Whiskey 66 1,072 Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 5/8 grey 3/8 bull won’t go far wrong there catch most things day and night 1 Quote Link to post
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