colliexgreyhound 119 Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Have a bit of a problem with rats around the pens. Having been gettin a few in traps but definitely a few that are wise to them. Was wondering if it’s safe to put down poison don’t want to take the chance of a dog dying by eating a poisoned rat Quote Link to post
comanche 2,988 Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, colliexgreyhound said: Have a bit of a problem with rats around the pens. Having been gettin a few in traps but definitely a few that are wise to them. Was wondering if it’s safe to put down poison don’t want to take the chance of a dog dying by eating a poisoned rat There is a "professional only" product that kills rats in a different way to the common blood thinning formulas . It's dangerous to dogs and wildlife in its primary form but evidence is that it seems to offer a "lower" risk of secondary poisoning . I had a conversation with a rep for it and he said that "in field trials no evidence of secondary poisoning had been detected." That's as far as he was prepared to comment . Certainly not a definite statement regarding its safety . It isn't available to the untrained anyway. Best stick with the idea that any poison round dogs is risky . 1 Quote Link to post
Peter4190 85 Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Air rifle an night vision sorted my rat problem out and it was enjoyable at the same time 1 Quote Link to post
dodger 2,754 Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Interesting post.. Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Peter4190 said: Air rifle an night vision sorted my rat problem out and it was enjoyable at the same time yep, i did mine , and got a few, in the day ,so night vision deff be lot better . dont know what his set up is , but if in shed or raised floor, you could put the poison under the shed of under the floor say 5 ft away no dog get to that, the rats just die in there. but if not got these set up like i have, well shoot them at night . Quote Link to post
colliexgreyhound 119 Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, bird said: yep, i did mine , and got a few, in the day ,so night vision deff be lot better . dont know what his set up is , but if in shed or raised floor, you could put the poison under the shed of under the floor say 5 ft away no dog get to that, the rats just die in there. but if not got these set up like i have, well shoot them at night . There’s a hedge at back of the pens where they seem to be coming from and also a farm 60 metres away so I’d imagine there will always be a few knocking about. just worried incase a poisoned rat got into the pens and they ate it. One of the dogs killed a rat before that got into the pens Quote Link to post
mr moocher 925 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 i have rats in the garden but they wont go near the dogs kennel my dogs kill em Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, colliexgreyhound said: There’s a hedge at back of the pens where they seem to be coming from and also a farm 60 metres away so I’d imagine there will always be a few knocking about. just worried incase a poisoned rat got into the pens and they ate it. One of the dogs killed a rat before that got into the pens 22 minutes ago, colliexgreyhound said: There’s a hedge at back of the pens where they seem to be coming from and also a farm 60 metres away so I’d imagine there will always be a few knocking about. just worried incase a poisoned rat got into the pens and they ate it. One of the dogs killed a rat before that got into the pens A few lads with there terriers and a smoke machine. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,729 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, paulus said: A few lads with there terriers and a smoke machine. Two men, a Drum Machine and a Trumpet. Those rats will be tired of getting pushed around. Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, shaaark said: Two men, a Drum Machine and a Trumpet. Those rats will be tired of getting pushed around. Like billio Quote Link to post
dodger 2,754 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 It's surprising how many stables and farms use poison while having dogs around the place and this from getting pest control people in I don't think it's worth it? Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,114 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 23 hours ago, comanche said: There is a "professional only" product that kills rats in a different way to the common blood thinning formulas . It's dangerous to dogs and wildlife in its primary form but evidence is that it seems to offer a "lower" risk of secondary poisoning . I had a conversation with a rep for it and he said that "in field trials no evidence of secondary poisoning had been detected." That's as far as he was prepared to comment . Certainly not a definite statement regarding its safety . It isn't available to the untrained anyway. Best stick with the idea that any poison round dogs is risky . Selontra...it kills by basically giving the rodent a massive dose of vitamin D3.. Kills quite quick compared to Aniticolaguant type baits Quote Link to post
dodger 2,754 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, TOMO said: Selontra...it kills by basically giving the rodent a massive dose of vitamin D3.. Kills quite quick compared to Aniticolaguant type baits What would you suggest to a stables or farm if they called you in due to a rat problem and you noticed they also had kennels there n you couldn't dogs or ferrets. I don't know anything about these poisons but the rats go lethargic of the usual ones don't they? But even if the dogs don't kill a rat my thinking is all it takes Is for a rat to run across one beams they run up n down in the ceiling etc drop abit of poison n the dog eats even abit? Then you have rat piss another evil and alot of these game crops on shoots are full of rats makes me consider about the yearly booster for lepto Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,114 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 18 minutes ago, dodger said: What would you suggest to a stables or farm if they called you in due to a rat problem and you noticed they also had kennels there n you couldn't dogs or ferrets. I don't know anything about these poisons but the rats go lethargic of the usual ones don't they? But even if the dogs don't kill a rat my thinking is all it takes Is for a rat to run across one beams they run up n down in the ceiling etc drop abit of poison n the dog eats even abit? Then you have rat piss another evil and alot of these game crops on shoots are full of rats makes me consider about the yearly booster for lepto Smoker and the dogs..shooting...or using poison... They all have there place... that selontra is good stuff though... 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,899 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 I've never had a problem wi it could be luck tho. Quote Link to post
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