chartpolski 24,581 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 I was stationed out in the desert one time and there were, supprisingly, a few ex RN lads, mainly comms types. Anyhow one was a caricature of a typical cockney but a good lad. We we’re on leave at the same time and he phoned to see if he could come up to Newcastle and have a drink with me. I said of course and told him my local pub. I went in the night I was supposed to meet him and the barman told me some cockney spiv in a trench coat who looked like special branch had been in asking about me, but don’t worry, we said we never heard of you and f****d the c**t off ! Put him right off Geordies ! Cheers. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,661 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, chartpolski said: I was stationed out in the desert one time and there were, supprisingly, a few ex RN lads, mainly comms types. Anyhow one was a caricature of a typical cockney but a good lad. We we’re on leave at the same time and he phoned to see if he could come up to Newcastle and have a drink with me. I said of course and told him my local pub. I went in the night I was supposed to meet him and the barman told me some cockney spiv in a trench coat who looked like special branch had been in asking about me, but don’t worry, we said we never heard of you and f****d the c**t off ! Put him right off Geordies ! Cheers. "Typical cockney but a good lad". Hence it is unusual to meet a good cockney. I'm saying nowt. Edited November 24, 2023 by jukel123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,661 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 When I was a kid anybody who had a trench coat and a trilby hat who entered our neighbourhood was referred to as a 'f****n D'. 'D' being a detective. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,581 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, jukel123 said: "Typical cockney but a good lad". Hence it is unusual to meet a good cockney. I'm saying nowt. “Caricature” of a typical cockney isn’t the same as typical cockney. I’ve met loads of cockneys I’ve gotten on very well with. Just like the Welsh lads , jocks, paddy’s and just about every other regional or national people I’ve met. Working in foreign lands is a great leveller and you learn a lot about people you depend on. Stereotypes arn’t for me. I take people as I find them. Cheers. Edited November 24, 2023 by chartpolski 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,661 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, chartpolski said: “Caricature” of a typical cockney isn’t the same as typical cockney. I’ve met loads of cockneys I’ve gotten on very well with. Just like the Welsh lads , jocks, paddy’s and just about every other regional or national people I’ve met. Working in foreign lands is a great leveller and you learn a lot about people you depend on. Stereotypes arn’t for me. I take people as I find them. Cheers. Just a joke mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jukel123 8,661 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 A bloke on my salmon fishing beat is forever brown nosing the owner. He gets called Ted to his face. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,581 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 Another little tale about another cockney ex RN comms tech I worked with. We were contracted to the Royal Saudi Airforce as instructors at the Air Defence underground bunker just outside of Riyadh. We were bussed in every day on the shift bus and the guard would check our “red, all areas passes”, but they would give this particular cockney a hard time, as, admittedly, he was a bit of a racist. One night shift, the cockney lad went up top for a smoke and noticed the guard was asleep and his weapon unattended ! The cockney crept up, stripped the weapon and laid it out at the sleeping guards feet ! Next morning, before shift change, the guard woke up and went into blind panic mode ! He begged us to help him, as he knew he would be beaten and jailed for such dereliction of duty, but we just shrugged and walked away, apart from the cockney lad, who put his arm around the guards shoulder and offered to help. He reassembled the weapon, all was well, and he never got hassle from the guards again ! Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,732 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, jukel123 said: When I was a kid anybody who had a trench coat and a trilby hat who entered our neighbourhood was referred to as a 'f****n D'. 'D' being a detective. Lol Just one more thing! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,416 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, low plains drifter said: Just one more thing! Feck off Colombo lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,624 Posted November 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, jukel123 said: When I moved to London in 69 I tried to get work on building sites. I had lots of experience, but the Irish preferred to hire amongst themselves. What really annoyed me was I am 75% Irish by DNA but English by accent. Ended up working for a Mr Ford in Dagenham. First I heard you worked at Fords mate, they had great facilities around there and Basildon, West Ham’s training ground is at their old social & sports club at Rush Green Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,661 Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, WILF said: First I heard you worked at Fords mate, they had great facilities around there and Basildon, West Ham’s training ground is at their old social & sports club at Rush Green Yes I met a lot of West Ham lads. They were good blokes. They were outspoken up front blokes with a sense of self worth. They all had similar views on race to you and gnasher. Lots of northern mill workers I worked with were brow beaten in comparison. The black lads at Fords kept to themselves and vice versa, although some of the black lads were into boxing and football same as we were. There was a lot of racist graffiti in the toilets. It was a bit like an American prison. The two groups by and large did not mix. You ever noticed how young southerners walk? It's a kind of jaunty side to side swagger. Northern men walked with a stooped, head down gait. As if they are determined to get up that f****n hovis hill one more time. Edited November 24, 2023 by jukel123 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,624 Posted November 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, jukel123 said: Yes I met a lot of West Ham lads. They were good blokes. They were outspoken up front blokes with a sense of self worth. They all had similar views on race to you and gnasher. Lots of northern mill workers I worked with were brow beaten in comparison. You ever noticed how young southerners walk? It's a kind of jaunty side to side swagger. Northern men walked with a stooped, head down gait. As if they are determined to get up that f****n hovis hill one more time. You wouldn’t believe what it looks like now mate, they levelled nearly all of it……it’s all industrial parks and stuff like that. The new A13 runs through the site and it really gives you a sense of how massive that factory was. We used to play mid week night cup games and stuff at fords Rush Green and Saturdays sometimes at the Basildon club, always liked playing there because the facilities were first class. Mate of mine who was our centre back has worked for them for nearly 40 years, he has done all sort of courses from refereeing to (in later life) weight watchers ! Lol All paid for by Fords. He had a really, really bad leg break when we was in our 20s playing and was in a leg cage for 12 months….fords paid for all his treatment through their private health insurance and all his rehab. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,661 Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, WILF said: You wouldn’t believe what it looks like now mate, they levelled nearly all of it……it’s all industrial parks and stuff like that. The new A13 runs through the site and it really gives you a sense of how massive that factory was. We used to play mid week night cup games and stuff at fords Rush Green and Saturdays sometimes at the Basildon club, always liked playing there because the facilities were first class. Mate of mine who was our centre back has worked for them for nearly 40 years, he has done all sort of courses from refereeing to (in later life) weight watchers ! Lol All paid for by Fords. He had a really, really bad leg break when we was in our 20s playing and was in a leg cage for 12 months….fords paid for all his treatment through their private health insurance and all his rehab. I had a Landan foreman who was an excellent bloke. I can remember working a Sunday and it was a blazing hot day outside. Another lad said to me " f**k this, come on let's have a fag outside and get some sun" so off we went. We ended up sunbathing for a good two hours until clocking off time. Monday morning I was called into the Foreman's cabin. He began with " where the f**k were you yesterday ?" I just came clean and told him the truth..it was too nice a day to sweat in a factory. He just laughed and said to me "OK , you've been honest, but I ain't covering for you again son, next time you're on your f****n own. Now f**k off back to work" . Which was a very unexpected outcome, and very classy on his part, especially as I'd been paid double time for Sunday working and he hadn't docked my time when I was AWOL. Employees could buy a cut price car at Fords. Sometimes it was difficult to tell whether the huge car parks were the factory's completed cars ready for sale, or worker's own cars. They were all Ford cars, mostly Cortinas. The pace of change over the last fifty years has been crazy. I was born in what is now media city in Salford. Today it is an upmarket wine bar/ bistro/ museum / TV studio area. Right up until the early 70s it was like a black and white Lowry picture...docks, ladies of the night, smoke, factories, grim_ up _north type of place. I can't even get my bearings there now, the landscape has changed so much. One of the few places that has stayed the same is Salford Lads Club which, because of The Smiths, is, officially, now one of the most visited tourist destinations in the country! A lot of my classmates are dropping off one by one and they all ask,for donations at their funeral, to be given to Salford Lads Club. It did mean a lot to us, but sometimes I think they choose it because it's remained unchanged and represented their identity. Something like that. Edited November 25, 2023 by jukel123 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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