chartpolski 24,139 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulus said: How will it work?, Not being an elected MP then he will not be able to have a seat in the House, So will be unable to answer any questions from other MP`s on areas of Foreign policy or any other areas of his appointment. daft if you ask me. Never mind giving him a peerage just to a;;ow it to happen, Are Peerages not given on merit any more?. There have been precedents, Lord Carrington was Foreign Secretary during the Falklands War, and Gordon Brown made Lord Mandelson a Minister. You don’t need to be an MP to be in government, there are plenty in the House of Lords who are Ministers and Shadow Ministers, but it’s very rare for a Lord to become one of the holders of the four great offices of state. Cameron will not appear in the Commons, no Lord is allowed to, he will answer question in the Lords, but it will be his deputy who will answer questions in the commons, hardly a satisfactory state of affairs ! What worries me is that it is now coming out that Cameron and Osbourne have been advising Sunak all along, sounds like he is just a puppet to the “Establishment “. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,349 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, chartpolski said: There have been precedents, Lord Carrington was Foreign Secretary during the Falklands War, and Gordon Brown made Lord Mandelson a Minister. You don’t need to be an MP to be in government, there are plenty in the House of Lords who are Ministers and Shadow Ministers, but it’s very rare for a Lord to become one of the holders of the four great offices of state. Cameron will not appear in the Commons, no Lord is allowed to, he will answer question in the Lords, but it will be his deputy who will answer questions in the commons, hardly a satisfactory state of affairs ! What worries me is that it is now coming out that Cameron and Osbourne have been advising Sunak all along, sounds like he is just a puppet to the “Establishment “. Cheers. What partys know is that the population in times of turmoil will run to what they know….do you think that’s the strategy from the Torys because they know they are in deep shit ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iworkwhippets 12,639 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 Isn't big afolami in the running,lol, i give up I do, I'm just giving Diwali some humpy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 24,139 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, WILF said: What partys know is that the population in times of turmoil will run to what they know….do you think that’s the strategy from the Torys because they know they are in deep shit ? I think Sunak is out of his depth. He’s a technocrat, not a politician. It appears no one in the “bubble” is telling him what the feeling on the street is, he’s listening to spads who have never had a job outside of politics. He’s neither left or right, he is in the centre and a treasury man, and the Treasury is 100% for massive immigration thinking that it raises GDP, they don’t care about the social upheaval. All I can hope for is that the Conservatives are so decimated in the GE that a true “Conservative”, right of centre party emerges, (Reform ?), and Labour don’t completely destroy the economy and the country during their one term parliament. As usual, these are just MY opinions and views, others may disagree, and I respect that. Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 8,341 Posted November 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 Big problem for Sunak is that Johnstone sacked a lot of bona fide statesmen and replaced them with clerks and low grade salesmen/ women. Cameron's remit is to rearrange the deck chairs and maybe to facilitate some slash and burn laws so that their mates get a good financial bonus before they are in the wilderness for a term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, paddyluke said: the other parties were shouting for her to be sacked because she was the one they were most frigthened of Think that tells you everything that is wrong and stacked against the British people 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,844 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 Imagine sacking a home sec that is saying things the people agree with 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddyluke 795 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Think that tells you everything that is wrong and stacked against the British people tell me about it,muslims/foreigners can protest but home bred british citizens cant, they keep shouting for jihad,why don't they go to Gaza and carry it out?? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,721 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 its like fred carnos circus.,,,bring back boris 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,736 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, paulus said: Are Peerages not given on merit any more?. Not for a long time mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,349 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 47 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: Imagine sacking a home sec that is saying things the people agree with They couldn’t give a flying f**k what people agree with, they will feed people what they want to feed them mate….didn’t you get the memo old chap ? Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, chartpolski said: There have been precedents, Lord Carrington was Foreign Secretary during the Falklands War, and Gordon Brown made Lord Mandelson a Minister. You don’t need to be an MP to be in government, there are plenty in the House of Lords who are Ministers and Shadow Ministers, but it’s very rare for a Lord to become one of the holders of the four great offices of state. Cameron will not appear in the Commons, no Lord is allowed to, he will answer question in the Lords, but it will be his deputy who will answer questions in the commons, hardly a satisfactory state of affairs ! What worries me is that it is now coming out that Cameron and Osbourne have been advising Sunak all along, sounds like he is just a puppet to the “Establishment “. Cheers. It has been a puppet establishment for years mate. You only have to look at what happened to Liz Truss when she tried to go against what the puppet masters wanted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: Not for a long time mate Can we lobby for Walshie to get one then Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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ditchman 2,843 Posted November 13, 2023 Report Share Posted November 13, 2023 STOP PRESS.......... the "word on the wire "...........is Suella Braverman will be replacing Nigel Farage news slot on GB News .....as a tempory replacement.....whilst he has gone into the jungle woooowwww..........politics is getting interesting 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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