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[scottpenn28 246]

12 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

If I had my time again,then a genuine 1st x beddy/grey x 3/8 5/8 bull/grey would be my choice

 

 

Very specific, thanks for your opinion, certainly food for thought

[mC HULL 13,814]

3 minutes ago, scottpenn28 said:

We had spaniels and collie x greys when was a kid and I've only really had spaniels. Lurcher I've just lost being my first lurcher I've owned myself so no idea what a pet staff is like to own. But by sounds of it quite trainable

yes mate they are real easy to get on with listen easy to train similar to a collie x grey but collie x be better for edible 

[fred90 3,290]

sadly it's a changed world now days, the dogs we had in the 80s and early 90s don't really suit so much now, new laws and do gooders have seen to that. thing's we got away with then would be a lot harder now, so I think choice of dogs has changed too. 

[scottpenn28 246]

4 minutes ago, fred90 said:

sadly it's a changed world now days, the dogs we had in the 80s and early 90s don't really suit so much now, new laws and do gooders have seen to that. thing's we got away with then would be a lot harder now, so I think choice of dogs has changed too. 

In what way? If do gooders going to film you or whatever then surely makes no difference what type of lurcher your running? Depending which side of the line you want to run then all the same quarry is about from the 80's & 90's. Your either on 1 side of the line or the other regardless of dog breed? Genuine question so apologies if doesn't come across like it. 

[scottpenn28 246]

13 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

yes mate they are real easy to get on with listen easy to train similar to a collie x grey but collie x be better for edible 

Hadn't really considered bull x as just assumed they would steam roll into anything and everything regardless but has definitely made me think

[fred90 3,290]

7 minutes ago, scottpenn28 said:

In what way? If do gooders going to film you or whatever then surely makes no difference what type of lurcher your running? Depending which side of the line you want to run then all the same quarry is about from the 80's & 90's. Your either on 1 side of the line or the other regardless of dog breed? Genuine question so apologies if doesn't come across like it. 

point I am trying to make is, same quarry is still there but no longer legal whatever side of the line you are on, with or without permission. modern tech, etc makes it harder these days, only rabbits (remember them anyone) and rat are legal, myself and some I know have chosen different dogs now that we didn't have before. 

[scottpenn28 246]

10 minutes ago, fred90 said:

point I am trying to make is, same quarry is still there but no longer legal whatever side of the line you are on, with or without permission. modern tech, etc makes it harder these days, only rabbits (remember them anyone) and rat are legal, myself and some I know have chosen different dogs now that we didn't have before. 

Makes sense in more ways than 1. 90% of what I'm seeing for sale though are heavy bull x's and I'm not convinced they are being bred for rabbits and rats. Got me wondering though if a particular "type" bring unwanted attention more than others . Thanks

[Daniel cain 46,352]

If your main quarry is vermin that bites back...then something like a  wheaton/bull/grey is the road I would go down...

If you want to spin old puss and concentrate on filling a freezer..then a coursing dog back to collie/bull/grey could be an option?

It really does depend where/what type of ground you hunt on...horses for courses as they say...you wouldnt use a whippet for grassing big fallow bucks

[Daniel cain 46,352]

11 hours ago, scottpenn28 said:

Makes sense in more ways than 1. 90% of what I'm seeing for sale though are heavy bull x's and I'm not convinced they are being bred for rabbits and rats. Got me wondering though if a particular "type" bring unwanted attention more than others . Thanks

Then get a hairy bull x...thats the route I went down a few yrs ago...tbh everywhere I go with it,folks are always stopping for a chat...they are always blown away by how well mannered she is

[scottpenn28 246]

2 hours ago, Daniel cain said:

If your main quarry is vermin that bites back...then something like a  wheaton/bull/grey is the road I would go down...

If you want to spin old puss and concentrate on filling a freezer..then a coursing dog back to collie/bull/grey could be an option?

It really does depend where/what type of ground you hunt on...horses for courses as they say...you wouldnt use a whippet for grassing big fallow bucks

Tbh I've got no real specific quarry, although if can fill the freezer then massive bonus. The 1 just lost was just my type of dog, and I don't mean in looks or "type", she was just a joy. Don't get me wrong it drove me crazy that I could never get her going and never managed to fill the freezer but we tried so bloody hard now she's gone and will eventually be replaced when the right pup is found, I want to make sure I'm not looking at it with blinkers on. 

I know everyone will have different opinions but it's been good to see what others think. Especially when they know exponentially more than me about running dogs. From my point of view it certainly gave me more to think about. 

[shaaark 10,930]

15 minutes ago, scottpenn28 said:

Tbh I've got no real specific quarry, although if can fill the freezer then massive bonus. The 1 just lost was just my type of dog, and I don't mean in looks or "type", she was just a joy. Don't get me wrong it drove me crazy that I could never get her going and never managed to fill the freezer but we tried so bloody hard now she's gone and will eventually be replaced when the right pup is found, I want to make sure I'm not looking at it with blinkers on. 

I know everyone will have different opinions but it's been good to see what others think. Especially when they know exponentially more than me about running dogs. From my point of view it certainly gave me more to think about. 

What type/cross was your old bitch, mate?

If you got on so well, it might be worth going for the same type.

And like you said, you won't be making the same mistakes this time, so that would bode well for your new dog.

[Deerhunter1 772]

21 minutes ago, scottpenn28 said:

Tbh I've got no real specific quarry, although if can fill the freezer then massive bonus. The 1 just lost was just my type of dog, and I don't mean in looks or "type", she was just a joy. Don't get me wrong it drove me crazy that I could never get her going and never managed to fill the freezer but we tried so bloody hard now she's gone and will eventually be replaced when the right pup is found, I want to make sure I'm not looking at it with blinkers on. 

I know everyone will have different opinions but it's been good to see what others think. Especially when they know exponentially more than me about running dogs. From my point of view it certainly gave me more to think about. 

The one you lost how did you lose her? Was it through a working injury? If you’re looking for something to do a bit of everything with I wouldn’t worry so much about the breeds, you get good dogs & shit dogs in every cross, just source a pup from parents that are worked to a decent standard. Most importantly though make sure the mother is the sort of dog you’d be happy owning, they put most in to the pups anyway.

[Black neck 16,229]

You want summat fast enough 

[scottpenn28 246]

3 minutes ago, Black neck said:

You want summat fast enough 

If you were as quick as your wit you wouldn't need a dog 

[scottpenn28 246]

59 minutes ago, shaaark said:

What type/cross was your old bitch, mate?

If you got on so well, it might be worth going for the same type.

And like you said, you won't be making the same mistakes this time, so that would bode well for your new dog.

She was mainly saluki x grey but few other bits in the background. The breeding was top notch but I wasn't and sadly couldn't get her right