steve66 3,529 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 12 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Was listening to a background debate on you tube whilst pottering about 1) we are , when the electric ark schemes get f****d off , the only G20 country, apart from Saudi Arabia , without the means of domestic steel production . 2) drax power station runs on burnt wood imported from the forests of North Pacific America . Yet we can’t open a coal mine in Cumbria ( 120 miles away ) to provide to it . What have we done to this country Always thought steel production was vital to the country for defence reasons 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,089 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 16 minutes ago, steve66 said: Always thought steel production was vital to the country for defence reasons We would have been well and truly knacked without it in WW2 that is a cert. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackay 3,400 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 13 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Was listening to a background debate on you tube whilst pottering about 1) we are , when the electric ark schemes get f****d off , the only G20 country, apart from Saudi Arabia , without the means of domestic steel production . 2) drax power station runs on burnt wood imported from the forests of North Pacific America . Yet we can’t open a coal mine in Cumbria ( 120 miles away ) to provide to it . What have we done to this country We haven't done anything to this country mate, that said we have been complicit in allowing it to happen. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 16,112 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 1 hour ago, steve66 said: Always thought steel production was vital to the country for defence reasons Well not just that mate . despite what’s people around me say , I always use the railways as the example . Everywhere around this world , Britain built the railway . There are still railways stamped Sheffield steel in the sub continent from when Victoria was in the throne. Not having that capability anymore just diminishes our UK plc brand imho my pal , who I served with , lives in port talbotand now makes his living as a crane operator. His father’s family worked many years in the furnaces there and when he was involved in the deconstruction of the plants , his father was a bit funny with him for a while . The lack of foresight shown as we drive towards net zero is baffling 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 4,510 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Well not just that mate . despite what’s people around me say , I always use the railways as the example . Everywhere around this world , Britain built the railway . There are still railways stamped Sheffield steel in the sub continent from when Victoria was in the throne. Not having that capability anymore just diminishes our UK plc brand imho my pal , who I served with , lives in port talbotand now makes his living as a crane operator. His father’s family worked many years in the furnaces there and when he was involved in the deconstruction of the plants , his father was a bit funny with him for a while . The lack of foresight shown as we drive towards net zero is baffling Years ago I used to patrol a lot of jointed bullhead rail which is an older type of rail still found in sidings and less used routes, it was quality stuff Sheffield steel that used to be turned around around once worn on one side to utilise the other side every 50 years or so, I took a top engineer out once who was quoting me all these dates that the rail was put in and I disagreed with him he was adamant he was right until i showed him the dates which are stamped on the web of the rail the middle bit on the sides, late 1800s some of it was stamped. The rail they use now is mainly 1131b flat bottom and in some places CEN60 no where near the quality of the old stuff. @Bakerboy would know more about this than me as I believe he still works with it. Edited November 24, 2024 by FLATTOP 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bangersanmash 3,068 Posted November 24, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 Just made me nearly eat my phone seeing this. Like the people holding onto him are in the wrong. Trying to use that raised voice shit to intimidate. Pull his beanie hat over his f***ing head an punch f**k out of him. Spinning around at the same time taking shots at his head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.357shooter 1,235 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Bangersanmash said: Just made me nearly eat my phone seeing this. Like the people holding onto him are in the wrong. Trying to use that raised voice shit to intimidate. Pull his beanie hat over his f***ing head an punch f**k out of him. Spinning around at the same time taking shots at his head. shite like that should not be here end of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Borr 6,183 Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 Stats on illegal migration crime getting released this coming week apparently.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltjnr 6,922 Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Borr said: Stats on illegal migration crime getting released this coming week apparently.... Be interesting, how truthful who knows? ,didn't do crime I thought, just enriched our society,greatful for a chance of a better life and all that old bull locks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,089 Posted November 28, 2024 Report Share Posted November 28, 2024 Some positivity from the riots at the holiday inn at manvers in August. The people of the surrounding area should thank those who put their liberty on the line and lost their liberty. This decision would have been different had it been a peaceful protest. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,145 Posted November 28, 2024 Report Share Posted November 28, 2024 On 24/11/2024 at 13:25, FLATTOP said: Years ago I used to patrol a lot of jointed bullhead rail which is an older type of rail still found in sidings and less used routes, it was quality stuff Sheffield steel that used to be turned around around once worn on one side to utilise the other side every 50 years or so, I took a top engineer out once who was quoting me all these dates that the rail was put in and I disagreed with him he was adamant he was right until i showed him the dates which are stamped on the web of the rail the middle bit on the sides, late 1800s some of it was stamped. The rail they use now is mainly 1131b flat bottom and in some places CEN60 no where near the quality of the old stuff. @Bakerboy would know more about this than me as I believe he still works with it. the older ones iron or steel ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miggy 31 Posted November 28, 2024 Report Share Posted November 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, mC HULL said: the older ones iron or steel ? Don't matter to me, I throw it about like a Russell on a rat! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 4,510 Posted November 28, 2024 Report Share Posted November 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, mC HULL said: the older ones iron or steel ? The really early stuff I would have imagine to be wrought iron hence why it hardly wears and the more modern stuff steel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 13,145 Posted November 28, 2024 Report Share Posted November 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, FLATTOP said: The really early stuff I would have imagine to be wrought iron hence why it hardly wears and the more modern stuff steel. the earlier stuff bolted riveted loads a welding on the new stuff ? did sheffield make iron as well before steel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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