Migrants

[WILF 46,663]

2 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

You see i just dont believe science and genetics works like that ......strong uncompromising men dont suddenly produce feeble inferior specimens without instinct.... it exists.

Governments of the west certainly now how to suppress you're right.....but its there.

The question is, can it be relied on to stop the nation going over a cliff and I think, given all the evidence, the answer is No. 

So, imho, you have to come at the problem from a different angle.

[gnasher16 30,046]

18 minutes ago, WILF said:

The answer I’m afraid is Yes mate, and the reason it’s yes is because that is what needs to happen in order to progress the population to getting to a point in their head where they are saying “Hang on a minute ?….I don’t feel bad about voting for this nationalist now….I don’t see any other way” 

 

So once the things you are defending and fighting for dont exist anymore......you think people will defend and fight for them....right ok yeah good one.

 

21 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Again, yes we do leave it to them….in fact we hope it’s broadcast as widely as possible by all media outlets…..why, did you think any of those people were on your side all along ?

As they say, keep giving them enough rope……

 

 Again,so you are willing to sacrifice all we hold dear to " make a point "......allow our oldest and bravest to be humiliated etc ?......we're talking about one weekend here not day to day life.....again once its gone its gone.

25 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

I’m not standing by and watching it happen, it’s happened !…..the sooner we realise that is the reference point point we are all working from the better. 
This is just my humble opinion mate, but nobody is “saving Britain”…..they already took it away from us. 

Ive had this out with you before mate and its not even really a debate im willing to have or an attitude im going to try to justify we all do as we see fit as men.....you have given up and thats fine,but dont be knocking people who havent......if theres a 1% chance i could maybe protect some old boys memory over the weekend and stand shoulder to shoulder with others who care then im going to do that......its just the right thing to do...........nothing more to say 

[WILF 46,663]

Very interesting conversation by the way, I love all this type of shit.

As an aside, Blair and Hitler understood the game (yeah, I know, but bare with me ! Lol )

They sold their nations the idea of freedom and prosperity under their doctrine and financed it with massive debt…..unheard of in the 20s & 30s when most nations still tried to balance books.

It was well received.

They practiced and rehearsed their styles endlessly, Hitler would spend hours in front of the mirror carefully choreographing every arm movement and head gesture.

Blair had an army of advisors and stylists to do pretty much the same thing.

They understood the nature of people and they understood how to sell their message in a way that people would accept anything…..they understood who they had to be friends with, how to reward them and when to do away with them.

To pay for it all, it meant expansionism…..in Hitlers case conquest and war and in Blair’s case globalisation and war.

Nationalists and those who would see Britain restored need to get up to speed because they are Sunday league playing against Brazil in this fight. 

[gnasher16 30,046]

34 minutes ago, WILF said:

The question is, can it be relied on to stop the nation going over a cliff and I think, given all the evidence, the answer is No. 

So, imho, you have to come at the problem from a different angle.

Maybe try and find one of your Churchill quotes for " we'll slip and slide/duck and dive " eh mate 

[WILF 46,663]

3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

So once the things you are defending and fighting for dont exist anymore......you think people will defend and fight for them....right ok yeah good one.

You are fighting for them, it’s just being a bit more clued on about it.

3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

 

 Again,so you are willing to sacrifice all we hold dear to " make a point "......allow our oldest and bravest to be humiliated etc ?......we're talking about one weekend here not day to day life.....again once its gone its gone.

All we hold dear is gone, that’s just my opinion though mate.

Im not telling you that you have to think that just because I do…..I just think we are there and some people think we are getting there.

3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Ive had this out with you before mate and its not even really a debate im willing to have or an attitude im going to try to justify we all do as we see fit as men.....you have given up and thats fine,but dont be knocking people who havent......if theres a 1% chance i could maybe protect some old boys memory over the weekend and stand shoulder to shoulder with others who care then im going to do that......its just the right thing to do...........nothing more to say 

And that’s fine, I’m not telling anyone not to….I’m just giving an opinion that I think the better mileage comes out of letting these people hang themselves.

Governments are experts at that job, every time an atrocity happens they use the opportunity to squeeze in a new law and people are all “yeah, great idea” not understanding that they just lost a freedom too.

Governments are happy to let thousands of their own citizens die if it means they can have just a bit more power domestically…….look at the Muslim attacks on London and Manchester…..did they make a law against Muslims ?

No, they spun it as “We need to stop hate” and everyone went “Yeah, great idea” and now they can’t say a word against Muslims because of “hate speech” law…..game, set & match to the government…..again ! 
 

Up here for thinking and down there for dancing imho mate.

As I say, I’m not telling to you to believe it, it’s just what I see and think. 

[WILF 46,663]

4 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Maybe try and find one of your Churchill quotes for " we'll slip and slide/duck and dive " eh mate 

Yeah maybe, look, I’m completely emotionless about this…..I’m resigned to what’s happened and I have an opinion that only chaos can save us now.

We either get clever or stand clear.

That may be an opinion that you find annoying or repugnant mate but both of us have been at this job most of our life and we got precisely f***ing nowhere…..I have a strategy and you have a strategy…..hopefully one or both work out huh 

[gnasher16 30,046]

13 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

Nationalists and those who would see Britain restored need to get up to speed because they are Sunday league playing against Brazil in this fight. 

This " fight " that you ran away from you mean ?

Im beginning to lose my rag with you young man so im going to shut the laptop and f**k off out with the dog 

[gnasher16 30,046]

8 minutes ago, WILF said:

 

All we hold dear is gone, that’s just my opinion though mate.

 

Your ol fella was an army man was he not ? so was mine,i couldnt stand the man and he couldnt stand me but i admire what he stood for as i do all that generation and will protect their memory at all times..........so no all we hold dear is not f****n gone but it will be if these third world c**ts get there own way this weekend !

Now im certainly gonna f**k off before i hurl this laptop through the window 

 

[WILF 46,663]

7 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

This " fight " that you ran away from you mean ?

Im beginning to lose my rag with you young man so im going to shut the laptop and f**k off out with the dog 

I could tell ! 

Just now, gnasher16 said:

Your ol fella was an army man was he not ? so was mine,i couldnt stand the man and he couldnt stand me but i admire what he stood for as i do all that generation and will protect their memory at all times..........so no all we hold dear is not f****n gone but it will be if these third world c**ts get there own way this weekend !

Now im certainly gonna f**k off before i hurl this laptop through the window 

 

It’s just a chat mate, don’t cost yourself a trip to curry’s on my account. 

 

[WILF 46,663]

31 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

This " fight " that you ran away from you mean ?

There wasn’t a fight to run away from, Blair won it.

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Im beginning to lose my rag with you young man so im going to shut the laptop and f**k off out with the dog 

As I said, it’s just a conversation.

Edited add:

I will tell you something for nothing mate, you’ll win over more of the population being the affable football lads picking up the broken bodies of old age pensioners off the floor than you will punching 5 Muslims in the face defending a stone…..see how far that gets you.

I suppose you have to ask yourself do you want to make a point or do you want to win ? 

Edited November 9, 2023 by WILF

[byron 1,169]

1 hour ago, riohog said:

we are fkd ..,im 70  now  and i had the best times  ,and they wont return this woke society we live in now is right over my head ..

Same here riohog.growing up in the fifties/sixties.. we sorta had nothing.. but we had everything,if that makes sense..the good times have gone mate.i wouldn't want to be young again..that's for sure.

[WILF 46,663]

Well……that went totally as expected ! 

[paulus 26]

2 hours ago, WILF said:

Well……that went totally as expected ! 

Well i agree that a change of approach is needed, All this "protect the Cenotaph stuff" is not getting anybody anywhere if it ever really did. Without being media savvy it was always going to end badly. Look at it this way, Oxymoron coming up. If you don't act right wing, Then you can not be labelled as right wing even though you are right wing Lol

[Greyman 28,208]

On 09/11/2023 at 13:51, byron said:

Same here riohog.growing up in the fifties/sixties.. we sorta had nothing.. but we had everything,if that makes sense..the good times have gone mate.i wouldn't want to be young again..that's for sure.

There is still a place to flourish for the young if they are taught right by there peers, if I was starting my innings again I would probably hit the road in an horse drawn vardo while laughing at the world going mad around me chasing stupid dreams and being led around by the nose, every ones dad for decades has said things ain’t as good as the old days, maybe if we changed the tune we could change the outcome 

[NEWKID 27,127]

2 minutes ago, Greyman said:

There is still a place to flourish for the young if they are taught right by there peers, if I was starting my innings again I would probably hit the road in an horse drawn vardo while laughing at the world going mad around me chasing stupid dreams and being led around by the nose, every ones dad for decades has said things ain’t as good as the old days, maybe if we changed the tune we could change the outcome 

Life's what you make it mate... f**k me if most had a pound for moaning they'd be millionaires over night! Lol