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[WILF 46,527]

Imho, we are missing a trick with nationalism in Britain.

We already have accepted mainstream nationalism in Wales and Scotland, those party’s are in power ! 
However there is a toxic narrative around English nationalism…..so, instead of keep trying to be the blunt instrument we should be tapping into the nationalism that already exists and is accepted by selling a brand of British nationalism.

The nationalist mindset exists, people vote for it in Wales and Scotland….so these minds are open to that message of you are careful about how you deliver it. 

[Lenmcharristar 9,718]

27 minutes ago, WILF said:

Imho, we are missing a trick with nationalism in Britain.

We already have accepted mainstream nationalism in Wales and Scotland, those party’s are in power ! 
However there is a toxic narrative around English nationalism…..so, instead of keep trying to be the blunt instrument we should be tapping into the nationalism that already exists and is accepted by selling a brand of British nationalism.

The nationalist mindset exists, people vote for it in Wales and Scotland….so these minds are open to that message of you are careful about how you deliver it. 

British nationalism already exists, but is dying out, its here in northern ireland, 

[WILF 46,527]

20 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

British nationalism already exists, but is dying out, its here in northern ireland, 

As above mate  

[Bakerboy 4,542]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Imho, we are missing a trick with nationalism in Britain.

We already have accepted mainstream nationalism in Wales and Scotland, those party’s are in power ! 
However there is a toxic narrative around English nationalism…..so, instead of keep trying to be the blunt instrument we should be tapping into the nationalism that already exists and is accepted by selling a brand of British nationalism.

The nationalist mindset exists, people vote for it in Wales and Scotland….so these minds are open to that message of you are careful about how you deliver it. 

The problem with Welsh and Scottish nationalism is they are both socialist entities

[kanny 20,404]

53 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

The problem with Welsh and Scottish nationalism is they are both socialist entities

Yeah civic nationalism is a bit of a cop out imo , I'm not a great fan of ethno nationalism either,  something in the middle for me , I have no problem with skilled people being here, just not every man and his 12 dogs lol.

[mackem 26,072]

3 minutes ago, kanny said:

Yeah civic nationalism is a bit of a cop out imo , I'm not a great fan of ethno nationalism either,  something in the middle for me , I have no problem with skilled people being here, just not every man and his 12 dogs lol.

Skilled people is fine,it’s when the parents etc get visas as dependants,they get super-visas here,there’s an Indian woman here going to sue air-Canada as she brought her 84 year old father from India “For a new life” he died on the plane on the way over,as you said,every man and his 12 dogs.

[kanny 20,404]

3 minutes ago, mackem said:

Skilled people is fine,it’s when the parents etc get visas as dependants,they get super-visas here,there’s an Indian woman here going to sue air-Canada as she brought her 84 year old father from India “For a new life” he died on the plane on the way over,as you said,every man and his 12 dogs.

Agreed mate which is why it's important we find some unity and get behind and push people to the top who are going to address such issues and implement sensible policies, its the moderates that need catering for in such a way they can get on board. 

[MH1 1,866]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

Imho, we are missing a trick with nationalism in Britain.

We already have accepted mainstream nationalism in Wales and Scotland, those party’s are in power ! 
However there is a toxic narrative around English nationalism…..so, instead of keep trying to be the blunt instrument we should be tapping into the nationalism that already exists and is accepted by selling a brand of British nationalism.

The nationalist mindset exists, people vote for it in Wales and Scotland….so these minds are open to that message of you are careful about how you deliver it. 

Plaid Cymru isn't for the Welsh

 

[mackem 26,072]

Peaceful pro-Palestinian marchers.

 

[Lenmcharristar 9,718]

2 hours ago, kanny said:

Yeah civic nationalism is a bit of a cop out imo , I'm not a great fan of ethno nationalism either,  something in the middle for me , I have no problem with skilled people being here, just not every man and his 12 dogs lol.

Same here

[Daniel cain 44,945]

1 hour ago, MH1 said:

Plaid Cymru isn't for the Welsh

 

That silly cnut drakeford has set the wheels in motion to cripple Wales...hes been apparently stepping down for the last 2 yrs...but been busy pushing his agendas through the senate, without asking anyones opinions... slippery 🪱

[Lenmcharristar 9,718]

1 minute ago, Daniel cain said:

That silly cnut drakeford has set the wheels in motion to cripple Wales...hes been apparently stepping down for the last 2 yrs...but been busy pushing his agendas through the senate, without asking anyones opinions... slippery 🪱

The way the uk is heading some of these corrupt mps will end up on a 1 way ticket to permanent retirement. I think and hope the silent majority start pushing back against all this self ruin, woke attitude

[green lurchers 16,530]

Tony Blair is so proud of his deeds 

[WILF 46,527]

3 hours ago, Bakerboy said:

The problem with Welsh and Scottish nationalism is they are both socialist entities

 

2 hours ago, kanny said:

Yeah civic nationalism is a bit of a cop out imo , I'm not a great fan of ethno nationalism either,  something in the middle for me , I have no problem with skilled people being here, just not every man and his 12 dogs lol.

Lads, I hear you and I’d be an ethnic nationalist at my core, but I think we have to realise the position we are in and what we have to work with and I’m afraid the ethnic nationalism dog just won’t hunt at this moment in time……I also understand that the SNP, Plaid are socialist (Marxist) at their core much like Sinn Fien…..but there has to be a way to tap into the nationalistic voters of those partys because mentally, they are most of the way there ? 
 

I mentioned a Trojan horse approach and that has to be the way, there is no room for ethnic nationalism until you have established the space for civic nationalism imho……you have to be in a position to promote our own before you can actually do it. 
 

We can’t talk about what should be done when we get there if we can’t even get there……we have to be able to crawl before we can run. 
 

We ain’t figured out how to crawl yet !

[WILF 46,527]

32 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

The way the uk is heading some of these corrupt mps will end up on a 1 way ticket to permanent retirement. I think and hope the silent majority start pushing back against all this self ruin, woke attitude

Give them a clean, legal thing that they feel safe to embrace and they will…….nobody is voting for head bangers in case people find out and label them a head banger too.