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[kanny 20,404]

2 hours ago, WILF said:

Unfortunately as we have seen, foreign “Talent” is always at the expense of homegrown talent and at the expense of both society’s, jmho

That's all good mate until it comes down to brain surgery,  meritocracy works better at the professional level but doesn't really work at the working class level, I agree  

[kanny 20,404]

1 hour ago, gnasher16 said:

Seems you have no faith in the man who stands next to you......for me part of this " new " Britain we are bombarded with is to show the indigenous people that we cannot operate without the talents of people we taught !

As I just said to wilf , when it comes down to the man pulling a tumour out my brain his ethnicity is way down the list of questions. 

[mackem 26,072]

1 hour ago, kanny said:

As I just said to wilf , when it comes down to the man pulling a tumour out my brain his ethnicity is way down the list of questions. 

NHS without imported staff wouldn’t exist as it does,that’s just fact,likewise the Canadian healthcare system would be on its knees,when Covid was a big thing a small hospital,can’t remember where,Saskatchewan maybe?Closed due to lack of staff.

[Mickey Finn 2,983]

On 16/11/2023 at 11:05, paulus said:

Hamas is an ideology, That ideology grows in the west bank each time more Palestinian's are killed in Gazza. Hence the demonstrations, The Palestinians authority control in the west bank is weakened as more and are killed in Gazza, Its not a simple as you believe, as for funding and cheering Ukraine, We should have never got involved, It has and still doesn't have anything to do with the UK The European Union or NATO.

Paulus, I mentioned Ukraine to be ironic. The coincidence of Russia trying to reclaim land they need to be geologically secure and Israels seizing of The West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights. Israel can no more surrender these lands than Russia can give up their quest to rebuild the empire. It's our business and subsequently the UK's, to protect our fellow NATO members. Did NATO pick this fight? You could say so I guess. But NATO believes countries have the right to form alliances. 

[Mickey Finn 2,983]

On 14/11/2023 at 13:32, mackem said:

I talk like this in the UK,missus is Canadian,sitting in Tim hortons in Ottawa general hospital drinking coffee at the minute,signage is all bilingual.

It's Bi-lingual in Ontario, not Quebec. 

[mackem 26,072]

5 minutes ago, Mickey Finn said:

It's Bi-lingual in Ontario, not Quebec. 

I know.Oddly enough I met a quebecois bloke earlier whose father had him schooled on the Ottawa side of the river so he could speak English as well as French,he considers himself Canadian not French Canadian.

[DIDO.1 22,446]

10 hours ago, kanny said:

As I just said to wilf , when it comes down to the man pulling a tumour out my brain his ethnicity is way down the list of questions. 

It is. But as a nation we should aim to train our own brain surgeons, not import them from countries that we then fund through aid. Sucking any talent out of developing countries stops them developing, and leads to more people trying to flea those places 

[WILF 46,528]

1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said:

It is. But as a nation we should aim to train our own brain surgeons, not import them from countries that we then fund through aid. Sucking any talent out of developing countries stops them developing, and leads to more people trying to flea those places 

Use them until we no longer need them, the goal should be everything “in house”…..better for us, better for them.

[paulus 26]

10 hours ago, Mickey Finn said:

Paulus, I mentioned Ukraine to be ironic. The coincidence of Russia trying to reclaim land they need to be geologically secure and Israels seizing of The West Bank, Gaza, and the Golan Heights. Israel can no more surrender these lands than Russia can give up their quest to rebuild the empire. It's our business and subsequently the UK's, to protect our fellow NATO members. Did NATO pick this fight? You could say so I guess. But NATO believes countries have the right to form alliances. 

Neither Ukraine or Israel are NATO members. Israel only  cooperates with NATO in the areas of technology and counterterrorism.  Russia is not rebuilding its Empire its simple try to bolster its border security, letting Ukraine join the EU and subsequently NATO would be a threat to Russian security, 

[Mickey Finn 2,983]

3 hours ago, paulus said:

Neither Ukraine or Israel are NATO members. Israel only  cooperates with NATO in the areas of technology and counterterrorism.  Russia is not rebuilding its Empire its simple try to bolster its border security, letting Ukraine join the EU and subsequently NATO would be a threat to Russian security, 

Well, the Russian empire and the former Soviet Union were formed to provide that physical security. So, we are in agreement. Obviously Ukraine has made overtures to Join NATO. As has most European nations that border Russia. Without membership their sovereignty is in peril.

[paulus 26]

2 hours ago, Mickey Finn said:

Well, the Russian empire and the former Soviet Union were formed to provide that physical security. So, we are in agreement. Obviously Ukraine has made overtures to Join NATO. As has most European nations that border Russia. Without membership their sovereignty is in peril.

Ukraine joining NATO would be no different The Cuban missile crisis. 

[Borr 5,712]

Isn't Russia done? Can't takeover a neighbour? China haven't come to the rescue , billions of people reliant on outsourcing food? Thin line....

[WILF 46,528]

2 hours ago, Borr said:

Isn't Russia done? Can't takeover a neighbour? China haven't come to the rescue , billions of people reliant on outsourcing food? Thin line....

Russia don’t kill states, states kill themselves trying to kill Russia imho……what Russia has that no other country has (Save possibly China ?) is the ability to absorb.

Armies will break on the rock that is the vastness of Russia as has been proven time and time again.

In WW2 Russias losses were gargantuan but that coupled with the weather and just the sheer logistics of moving supplies across a country so massive broke the German Army, at that time arguably the most advanced and best army in the world.

Same with Napoleon and same with anyone else that ever tried to attack Russia.

There are places in Russia so remote that even Russia can’t get to them in any sort of way that makes sense cost and time wise.

Russia may not be going forward but you’ll die trying to push them backwards.

Its like punching a mattress, you’ll die of exhaustion before you do any terminal damage to it.

jmho 

[paulus 26]

16 minutes ago, WILF said:

Russia don’t kill states, states kill themselves trying to kill Russia imho……what Russia has that no other country has (Save possibly China ?) is the ability to absorb.

Armies will break on the rock that is the vastness of Russia as has been proven time and time again.

In WW2 Russias losses were gargantuan but that coupled with the weather and just the sheer logistics of moving supplies across a country so massive broke the German Army, at that time arguably the most advanced and best army in the world.

Same with Napoleon and same with anyone else that ever tried to attack Russia.

There are places in Russia so remote that even Russia can’t get to them in any sort of way that makes sense cost and time wise.

Russia may not be going forward but you’ll die trying to push them backwards.

Its like punching a mattress, you’ll die of exhaustion before you do any terminal damage to it.

jmho 

Correct, They don't need to do anything apart from hold the line, Ukraine and the west will give up long before the Russians do, 

[gnasher16 30,024]

23 hours ago, WILF said:

Fair enough squire,  I don’t see it as compromise…..I see it as trying to get to a place that will give you a chance to win.

Hitler needed the Kaiser and all the lords and gents that despised him…..until he didn’t and then discarded them.

I thinks it’s called a sprat to catch a mackerel mate.  

I just think its too late in the day for that mate its like we see with the Grift right and Civ Nats its almost like a material reward people are receiving for keeping hushed and turning a blind eye but its coming at the cost of having to cover up rape gangs and suchlike.....what i always try to put forward with Ethno Nationalism is that we have a moral standard and one of those standards is that we put our native population first..... that is a very strong standard that plenty of other countries set.....from the unions to the police,education,media they are at war with the native population and so these standards will be so concrete that hopefully in time Civ Nats will eventually look at them and say " you know what i think you're right "

For that to happen though people have to let go of their fear of labels and being called a racist......again,i just think its gone beyond what we can come back from with subtlety and we have to start using much stronger language and be totally unabashed with our aims.