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Theres just no hope 😱

If we had historically “kept our noses out” we would still be running around with wode on our faces…..we are a nation founded on conquest and piracy and basically nicking the other blokes stuff becaus

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48 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

Just watching protesters outside Tower Hamlets labour party hq, no wondeer these mps bow to the moslems, they'd be sunk without their block votes

I used to live in Tower Hamlets,the Mayor lutfur Rahman got a five year ban for vote rigging going into mosques telling his Islamic brothers it was their duty to vote for him,after the ban was up he was re-elected and was being investigated again.

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12 minutes ago, mackem said:

I used to live in Tower Hamlets,the Mayor lutfur Rahman got a five year ban for vote rigging going into mosques telling his Islamic brothers it was their duty to vote for him,after the ban was up he was re-elected and was being investigated again.

I remember reading about that when it happened, I think its a regular thing with the moslems block voting in certain areas.

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Just now, Bakerboy said:

I remember reading about that when it happened, I think its a regular thing with the moslems block voting in certain areas.

That’s the reason photograph ID needs to be shown now,large numbers were voting labour in tower hamlets some multiple times,Asians and western politics don’t mix very well.

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Just now, mackem said:

That’s the reason photograph ID needs to be shown now,large numbers were voting labour in tower hamlets some multiple times,Asians and western politics don’t mix very well.

They certainly know how to take the piss

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21 hours ago, mackem said:

I used to live in Tower Hamlets,the Mayor lutfur Rahman got a five year ban for vote rigging going into mosques telling his Islamic brothers it was their duty to vote for him,after the ban was up he was re-elected and was being investigated again.

You’re not missing much. I visit Whitechapel 2 or 3 times a week and it’s an absolute khazi.

My family are from Stepney and for as long as I can remember it’s always been an Asian area… they basically run London now and we’ll always have a mu5lim mayor 

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On 12/11/2023 at 10:06, WILF said:

Imho, we are missing a trick with nationalism in Britain.

We already have accepted mainstream nationalism in Wales and Scotland, those party’s are in power ! 
However there is a toxic narrative around English nationalism…..so, instead of keep trying to be the blunt instrument we should be tapping into the nationalism that already exists and is accepted by selling a brand of British nationalism.

The nationalist mindset exists, people vote for it in Wales and Scotland….so these minds are open to that message of you are careful about how you deliver it. 

Careful or Compromise.....its the age old controversy in the whole Nationalist movement,do you commit to full on Ethno Nationalism or make a compromise and go for " anyone can be British " Civic Nationalism.........do folk who have spent most of their lives fighting for 1 thing suddenly " trade off " for something else because a lot of the " new " Tommy Robinson types have pitched up with a weak compromise.

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On 12/11/2023 at 12:50, kanny said:

Yeah civic nationalism is a bit of a cop out imo , I'm not a great fan of ethno nationalism either,  something in the middle for me , I have no problem with skilled people being here, just not every man and his 12 dogs lol.

Just out of curiosity mate why are you not for Ethnic Nationalism do you not think we are up to it as a group ?

What do we " need " from other ethnicities that we cannot/couldnt do for ourselves ?

Not digging you out,just interested :thumbs:

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On 12/11/2023 at 15:49, WILF said:

 

Lads, I hear you and I’d be an ethnic nationalist at my core, but I think we have to realise the position we are in and what we have to work with and I’m afraid the ethnic nationalism dog just won’t hunt at this moment in time……I also understand that the SNP, Plaid are socialist (Marxist) at their core much like Sinn Fien…..but there has to be a way to tap into the nationalistic voters of those partys because mentally, they are most of the way there ? 
 

I mentioned a Trojan horse approach and that has to be the way, there is no room for ethnic nationalism until you have established the space for civic nationalism imho……you have to be in a position to promote our own before you can actually do it. 
 

We can’t talk about what should be done when we get there if we can’t even get there……we have to be able to crawl before we can run. 
 

We ain’t figured out how to crawl yet !

Civic Nationalists are just Ethnic Nationalists without the commitment to go all the way.....i find them quite funny.

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11 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Careful or Compromise.....its the age old controversy in the whole Nationalist movement,do you commit to full on Ethno Nationalism or make a compromise and go for " anyone can be British " Civic Nationalism.........do folk who have spent most of their lives fighting for 1 thing suddenly " trade off " for something else because a lot of the " new " Tommy Robinson types have pitched up with a weak compromise.

It’s all just gassing really but it’s a gas I find interesting, so, I suppose we have to ask ourselves how we get to any type of nationalist position at all before we can go all the way ?

If we are to go for the pure form of ethnic nationalism then you really do have to be careful how you sell that, that’s a very difficult thing to sell to your common or garden well meaning person with no strong opinions either way…..and there are way more of them than us……unless we have got so used to loosing that we are just happy loosing mate ? 

I mentioned a Trojan horse before and I really believe it would have to be something like that, we keep getting mowed down in the full frontal assaults. 
 

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