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[jukel123 7,957]

39 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

If a war with Iran and America and therefore Britain becomes a reality which is looking more and more like a real possibility if the shit show in palestine continues would you lads be happy with British troops fighting another war for American interests. 

Erdoğan has stated  in parliament that his country would not be prepared to watch the annihilation of Palestinians. The middle east is always a powder keg ready to blow. Much more so now. So many potential players with different agendae.

[jukel123 7,957]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

Now, there’s an interesting question !

For me, the short answer without boring the arse off everyone would have to be “No”

It would be the normal, lads fighting for interests the benefit of which they will never see with one arm tied behind their back.

 

At last I agree with you. Enough british blood has been shed on American instruction. 

[WILF 46,608]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Erdoğan has stated  in parliament that his country would not be prepared to watch the annihilation of Palestinians. The middle east is always a powder keg ready to blow. Much more so now. So many potential players with different agendae.

He can pipe down, 1 US battle group would wreck Turkey in a weekend !

A US battle group can wipe a country of the face of the earth, they have about 6 ! 
 

Edited to add:

Correction, they have 11 !

Edited November 12, 2023 by WILF

[dogmandont 9,800]

4 minutes ago, WILF said:

Now, there’s an interesting question !

For me, the short answer without boring the arse off everyone would have to be “No”

It would be the normal, lads fighting for interests the benefit of which they will never see with one arm tied behind their back.

 

It could easily turn into a massive clusterfcuk which will in turn see more Middle Eastern refugees flood into Europe and into the welcoming arms of the UK government. 

Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. 

[jukel123 7,957]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

He can pipe down, 1 US battle group would wreck Turkey in a weekend !

A US battle group can wipe a country of the face of the earth, they have about 6 ! 
 

Edited to add:

Correction, they have 11 !

It wa a clip on YouTube. He got a standing ovation in parliament. But that was 2 weeks ago and they've done sweet nothing. It's just grandstanding. From what I can make out Erdoğan is pretty tame despite his rhetoric.

[DIDO.1 22,609]

3 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

It could easily turn into a massive clusterfcuk which will in turn see more Middle Eastern refugees flood into Europe and into the welcoming arms of the UK government. 

Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. 

Perhaps that would be a positive for the elites in the West 

[kanny 20,433]

10 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Erdoğan has stated  in parliament that his country would not be prepared to watch the annihilation of Palestinians. The middle east is always a powder keg ready to blow. Much more so now. So many potential players with different agendae.

Turkey are a Nato member, Nato is the backbone of their own defence ,highly unlikely they'll do anything. 

[WILF 46,608]

4 minutes ago, dogmandont said:

It could easily turn into a massive clusterfcuk which will in turn see more Middle Eastern refugees flood into Europe and into the welcoming arms of the UK government. 

Sometimes you need to be careful what you wish for. 

That’s happening anyway imho mate, at this present time with this present group of Western European politicians….what difference would it make ?

If anything the only benefit is it may accelerate tension and apprehension amongst indigenous Europeans and make them get out an vote ?……all a hypothetical scenario of course 

[jukel123 7,957]

7 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Perhaps that would be a positive for the elites in the West 

They will,definitely find a way to make money out of a disaster. Disaster capitalism as in the disappearing Covid billions.

Quite  a scary time at the moment: Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.  b*****ds never think about my shares plummeting in value. It's a disgrace. Selfish to the core....joke!

Edited November 12, 2023 by jukel123

[WILF 46,608]

5 minutes ago, kanny said:

Turkey are a Nato member, Nato is the backbone of their own defence ,highly unlikely they'll do anything. 

If we hit every dentist Turkey would go skint in a week ! Lol 

[dogmandont 9,800]

12 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Perhaps that would be a positive for the elites in the West 

Maybe exactly what they want.. Who knows.. 

[WILF 46,608]

7 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

They will,definitely find a way to make money out of a disaster. Disaster capitalism as in the disappearing Covid billions.

Quite  a scary time at the moment: Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.  b*****ds never think about my shares plummeting in value. It's a disgrace. Selfish to the core....joke!

Won’t matter to you mate, you’re probably donating all the profits directly back to the workers anyway aren’t you ? 

[jukel123 7,957]

Just now, WILF said:

Won’t matter to you mate, you’re probably donating all the profits directly back to the workers anyway aren’t you ? 

Of course. I am insulted you need to ask my Irish ayatollah sparring partner.

[WILF 46,608]

Just now, jukel123 said:

Of course. I am insulted you need to ask my Irish ayatollah sparring partner.

Well, with 300,000 out on the streets Saturday I hope you invested heavily in dungaree factory’s and soy producers ! 

[jukel123 7,957]

Here's a question . Slightly off thread but still relevantish. How did we arrive at a situation where we are America's gopher? We've probably all seen the clip where Bush was chomping on a chicken leg and Blair was standing at the side like an apologetic waiter which really sums it up.

What are the historical reasons we ended up on the wrong end of this power relationship? Even are new bulletins are American centric and not Europe centric. Any answers?

Edited November 12, 2023 by jukel123