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[WILF 47,083]

Just now, chartpolski said:

I wasn’t clutching at hope, just giving a dispassionate opinion, I’d far rather Farage became leader of the rump Tory party after they are decimated.

Cheers.

Wasn’t specifically  talking about you mate, it was just a general observation.

It shows how easily people would revert to the two party’s that have been doing this to us for 70 years just because they say some words we want to hear don’t it.

You would think “just put Labour & Tory out of your thinking” would be an easy enough concept but with just an article and a couple of sentences here we are talking about them again like they are in any way a serious option for hope of better !…….it’s fascinating really. 

Again, not saying “you”, just a generalisation. 

[jukel123 8,188]

Braverman's husband is a jew who has lived  in Jerusalem. He is a former member of IDF. Many Downing St advisers accuse that treacherous oaf and general  moral catastrophe Johnston as being led by the nose by his airhead wife. Perhaps, just perhaps, Braverman's husband is leading Braverman by her ample nose?

Her job is to keep order, so the police can do their job by public consensus. Instead she is like a Saturday night drunk , screaming for attention whilst  pouring petrol  on a supposed left/ right war over the cenotaph.

No serious person believes Palestinian supporters are going to target the cenotaph. There's no need for the far right to bus in 'defenders' for the cenotaph. Left wing people are british too ,we had relations  killed in what most people believe were  the just wars at the beginning and middle of the last century. Palestinian supporters are  calling for a cease fire to stop further loss of innocent blood. What better day to show sympathy with ordinary Gazans than Armistice day? There's no disrespect intended. Armistice  day commemorates peace not bloodshed. ffs.

Braverman is a disgrace. Why is she not charged with hate speech?

She will be sacked shortly, which is her motive for all the shite she comes out with. She then hopes to launch a leadership bid when Sunak is dumped by the electorate. However, she is totally misguided in thinking the British people will support her. Most of us want to see her disappear from political life. She is a divisive disgrace.

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7 minutes ago, WILF said:

Wasn’t specifically  talking about you mate, it was just a general observation.

It shows how easily people would revert to the two party’s that have been doing this to us for 70 years just because they say some words we want to hear don’t it.

You would think “just put Labour & Tory out of your thinking” would be an easy enough concept but with just an article and a couple of sentences here we are talking about them again like they are in any way a serious option for hope of better !…….it’s fascinating really. 

Again, not saying “you”, just a generalisation. 

The sad truth is that the vast majority of voters only see a two party system. 
They say “ well, we gave the Tory’s a go and they were shit, so we’ll give Labour a go this time even though they are shit as well” !

Cheers.

[WILF 47,083]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Braverman's husband is a jew who has lived  in Jerusalem. He is a former member of IDF. Many Downing St advisers accuse that treacherous oaf and general  moral catastrophe Johnston as being led by the nose by his airhead wife. Perhaps, just perhaps, Braverman's husband is leading Braverman by her ample nose?

Braverman is doing exactly what her advisors are telling her too, it probably has f**k all to do with her husband.

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Her job is to keep order, so the police can do their job by public consensus. Instead she is like a Saturday night drunk , screaming for attention whilst  pouring petrol  on a supposed left/ right war over the cenotaph.

I agree, she is exploiting the situation….it’s what governments do.

She is probably hoping for chaos, so am I, but for different reasons…..or maybe the same reasons but with a different goal.

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

No serious person believes Palestinian supporters are going to target the cenotaph. There's no need for the far right to bus in 'defenders' for the cenotaph. Left wing people are british too ,we had relations  killed in what most people believe were  the just wars at the beginning and middle of the last century. Palestinian supporters are  calling for a cease fire to stop further loss of innocent blood. What better day to show sympathy with ordinary Gazans than Armistice day? There's no disrespect intended. Armistice  day commemorates peace not bloodshed. ffs.

There are no “innocent” Palestinians, or Gazans or whatever we are calling them now……to see Hamas is to see the heart of every inhabitant there and we better understand that.

”Left wing” people of blue & red persuasion helped get the country to this point in the first place by supporting this shit.

I don’t “hate” wasps but I know they ain’t my friend and don’t give a shit about me so I don’t invite a load into my house and pretend it’s a benefit ! 

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Braverman is a disgrace. Why is she not charged with hate speech?

Because it only applies to “you”……didn’t you understand this when they first dreamed it up ?

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

She will be sacked shortly, which is her motive for all the shite she comes out with. She then hopes to launch a leadership bid when Sunak is dumped by the electorate. However, she is totally misguided in thinking the British people will support her. Most of us want to see her disappear from political life. She is a divisive disgrace.

Of course she is, they all are !

[TRUEBRIT66 1,567]

10 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

 

No serious person believes Palestinian supporters are going to target the cenotaph. 

 

Hate to break this to you but police are currently guarding the war memorial in Rochdale that has been desecrated, poppies removed and FREEE PALESTINE sprayed on it so forgive me if I dont believe that.

Lets forget about this being a Arab/Israeli issue now this is a religious war pure and simple.   

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11 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The sad truth is that the vast majority of voters only see a two party system. 
They say “ well, we gave the Tory’s a go and they were shit, so we’ll give Labour a go this time even though they are shit as well” !

Cheers.

I know mate, don’t know what to say about it really…..knocks the stuffing out me if I’m honest 

Edited November 9, 2023 by WILF

[jukel123 8,188]

1 hour ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Hate to break this to you but police are currently guarding the war memorial in Rochdale that has been desecrated, poppies removed and FREEE PALESTINE sprayed on it so forgive me if I dont believe that.

Lets forget about this being a Arab/Israeli issue now this is a religious war pure and simple.   

Of course that is true. There are Pakis who demonstrate against the involvement of  british troops in various areas of conflict. If they break the law they should be dealt with . The police  were not shy in  cracking miners heads when they were given a few bob in overtime payments. These daubers of paint shouldn't be given the oxygen of publicity. They are nobodies. They only become somebody's when the right wing media fires people up to believe the end is nigh because a few pakis run about with aerosols.

I was in my local ex service club last night.  Somebody had organised a collection for kids in Palestine. Me and the Mrs gave £ 20.00. We will also bow our heads in respect at  11 o' clock on  Saturday where we  will join a silent protest at the genocide in Palestine. We will  be at our local cenotaph on Sunday morning commemorating family members killed in the wars.

I'm fed up with the hysterical Mail. Sun and GB news accusing british people of treachery if they support a ceasefire in Palestine. It s a f***ing disgrace. We don't even know it was Hamas or Hezbollah or the Jews themselves that fired the rockets. What we do know is that innocent civilians are being butchered. The argument that 'f**k em they are muslims' is ridiculous. All religions imo are  forces for evil in the world.

 

Edited November 9, 2023 by jukel123

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1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Braverman's husband is a jew who has lived  in Jerusalem. He is a former member of IDF. Many Downing St advisers accuse that treacherous oaf and general  moral catastrophe Johnston as being led by the nose by his airhead wife. Perhaps, just perhaps, Braverman's husband is leading Braverman by her ample nose?

Her job is to keep order, so the police can do their job by public consensus. Instead she is like a Saturday night drunk , screaming for attention whilst  pouring petrol  on a supposed left/ right war over the cenotaph.

No serious person believes Palestinian supporters are going to target the cenotaph. There's no need for the far right to bus in 'defenders' for the cenotaph. Left wing people are british too ,we had relations  killed in what most people believe were  the just wars at the beginning and middle of the last century. Palestinian supporters are  calling for a cease fire to stop further loss of innocent blood. What better day to show sympathy with ordinary Gazans than Armistice day? There's no disrespect intended. Armistice  day commemorates peace not bloodshed. ffs.

Braverman is a disgrace. Why is she not charged with hate speech?

She will be sacked shortly, which is her motive for all the shite she comes out with. She then hopes to launch a leadership bid when Sunak is dumped by the electorate. However, she is totally misguided in thinking the British people will support her. Most of us want to see her disappear from political life. She is a divisive disgrace.

Nobody believes they will target the cenotaph????

Mate they shouldn't even be considering a protest on what for Britain is a sacred day.... especially seeing as every protest has had extreme Islamists making their voices heard......AND especially seeing as cenotaphs around Britain have already been attacked. 

Just imagine for one minute if Muslims were holding a sacred day in London and the edl were holding a protest in the same area.....how would the police and government deal with it.

We may be different politically but on the whole I like and respect you......but FFS sometimes you talk as much cnutish clap trap as that prick sandyqueer 

Edited November 9, 2023 by DIDO.1

[jukel123 8,188]

25 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Nobody believes they will target the cenotaph????

Mate they shouldn't even be considering a protest on what for Britain is a sacred day.... especially seeing as every protest has had extreme Islamists making their voices heard......AND especially seeing as cenotaphs around Britain have already been attacked. 

Just imagine for one minute if Muslims were holding a sacred day in London and the edl were holding a protest in the same area.....how would the police and government deal with it.

We may be different politically but on the whole I like and respect you......but FFS sometimes you talk as much cnutish clap trap as that prick sandyqueer 

Wankers, attention seekers and oddballs get a bang out of targeting cenotaphs. It shouldn't tax the police's intelligence units to track the vandals down if they could be assed. The vast majority of people marching for a ceasefire on Saturday are certainly not interested in targeting cenotaphs or upsetting anybody. I am  not interested in insulting you back.

Pointless. I attended the countryside march and the march against the invasion of Iraq. I'v e been on lots of demos protesting about the deliberate demise of the NHS. I don't remember we dangerous lefties targeting cenotaphs ffs.

Edited November 9, 2023 by jukel123

[WILF 47,083]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Of course that is true. There are Pakis who demonstrate against the involvement of  british troops in various areas of conflict. If they break the law they should be dealt with . The police  were not shy in  cracking miners heads when they were given a few bob in overtime payments. These daubers of paint shouldn't be given the oxygen of publicity. They are nobodies. They only become somebody's when the right wing media fires people up to believe the end is nigh because a few pakis run about with aerosols.

I was in my local ex service club last night.  Somebody had organised a collection for kids in Palestine. Me and the Mrs gave £ 20.00. We will also bow our heads in respect at  11 o' clock on  Saturday where we  will join a silent protest at the genocide in Palestine. We will  be at our local cenotaph on Sunday morning commemorating family members killed in the wars.

I'm fed up with the hysterical Mail. Sun and GB news accusing british people of treachery if they support a ceasefire in Palestine. It s a f***ing disgrace. We don't even know it was Hamas or Hezbollah or the Jews themselves that fired the rockets. What we do know is that innocent civilians are being butchered. The argument that 'f**k em they are muslims' is ridiculous. All religions imo are  forces for evil in the world.

 

Honestly ?……..f***ing hell ! 
 

[WILF 47,083]

Something that just made me chuckle, it’s a funny old world when the hard left anti Semite thinks he’s the kind one ! Lol 

Fair play to you Jukel, us bigots have to stick together pal  

[jukel123 8,188]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

Something that just made me chuckle, it’s a funny old world when the hard left anti Semite thinks he’s the kind one ! Lol 

Fair play to you Jukel, us bigots have to stick together pal  

Naughty naughty. Anti semite? My gran was Jewish. Hard left? Not me, I've got my shares and a comfortable capitalist pension thank you very much.

You still campaigning on a " kill all the palestinian kids in case they end up over here  on a boat?" 

Herod believed in something similar, although he did spare the little girls.

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37 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Wankers, attention seekers and oddballs get a bang out of targeting cenotaphs. It shouldn't tax the police's intelligence units to track the vandals down if they could be assed. The vast majority of people marching for a ceasefire on Saturday are certainly not interested in targeting cenotaphs or upsetting anybody. I am  not interested in insulting you back.

Pointless. I attended the countryside march and the march against the invasion of Iraq. I'v e been on lots of demos protesting about the deliberate demise of the NHS. I don't remember we dangerous lefties targeting cenotaphs ffs.

On the countryside march we ALL filed past the cenotaph in silence, many of us leaving flowers from our hunt Kennel gardens at it's foot. 

This weekend there should be no protests in London. It's our sacred day. Any filth that try to over shadow that....be they pro Gaza or eco nuts..... should be smashed into the ground. 

[WILF 47,083]

8 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Naughty naughty. Anti semite? My gran was Jewish. Hard left? Not me, I've got my shares and a comfortable capitalist pension thank you very much.

You still campaigning on a " kill all the palestinian kids in case they end up over here  on a boat?" 

Herod believed in something similar, although he did spare the little girls.

Right, here’s a thing….you can’t throw around words like “genocide” when actually the people who have been attacked and are now dishing out the payback have actually been on the receiving end of the biggest genocide in history ! As in and actual, real genocide ! 
 

Also, did the twin tower bombers, the London tube bombers, the London bus bombers, the Mumbai attack squad, the Manchester bombers, the Paris attack squads, the Charlie Hebdo shooter, the Nigerian church massacre squads  (need I go on ?) emerge into this world all aged 25 ?…….little Muslims grow up to be big Muslims, generation after generation ! 
This is them !….period !……age has no bearing ! 
 

Your western good hearted donations and condemnations won’t make them blink for a second when they are blowing your grandkids to smithereens at a concert or shopping centre one day…..not for one second will they have any remorse or second thoughts.

They f***ing hate you, they are bred to hate you and they will continue to hate you ! 
1 you saved to today is 20 you killed tomorrow ! 
 

Im not being harsh or having a go mate, after all, as I said, us bigots have to stick together ! Lol 

[jukel123 8,188]

1 minute ago, WILF said:

Right, here’s a thing….you can’t throw around words like “genocide” when actually the people who have been attacked and are now dishing out the payback have actually been on the receiving end of the biggest genocide in history ! As in and actual, real genocide ! 
 

Also, did the twin tower bombers, the London tube bombers, the London bus bombers, the Mumbai attack squad, the Manchester bombers, the Paris attack squads, the Charlie Hebdo shooter, the Nigerian church massacre squads  (need I go on ?) emerge into this world all aged 25 ?…….little Muslims grow up to be big Muslims, generation after generation ! 
This is them !….period !……age has no bearing ! 
 

Your western good hearted donations and condemnations won’t make them blink for a second when they are blowing your grandkids to smithereens at a concert or shopping centre one day…..not for one second will they have any remorse or second thoughts.

They f***ing hate you, they are bred to hate you and they will continue to hate you ! 
1 you saved to today is 20 you killed tomorrow ! 
 

Im not being harsh or having a go mate, after all, as I said, us bigots have to stick together ! Lol 

I don't think I've got anything to add lads. A fair and frank exchange of opinions. Goodnight.