kanny 20,498 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 I wonder how this will all play out for Labour ...they have made such a big deal about antisemitism within the party they have come out in full support for Israel however its clear that a good percentage of their voters are Muslim... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 This was certainly not just planned by the Palestinian's alone. Someone clever enough to work out how many rockets it would take to overload Israel's Iron Curtain defence system, Then there's the coordination of the attack, The issue i don't understand is how it was all kept secret from the Israel`s security forces, A few thousand missiles and mobs of armed men massing at areas along the boarder must have been noticed. The person i can see to gain most out of a big escalation in the region would be Putin. It splits the West into having to supply the hard ware to two places at once, Yes i do understand that Iran is probably the main player but who is the puppet master. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,678 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Dont know who the puppet master is but biden slipped them 5-6 billion not long ago ( and yes before the leftys pipe up,I know the US been funding Israel for decades ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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chartpolski 23,244 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 What I can’t understand is how Hamas could bulldoze the border fence and come pouring through and it took so long for the IDF to respond ? No patrols, no cctv, no aerial surveillance ? Not like the Yehudi’s to not be on the ball ! Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,666 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 I don’t think we need to read too much into it, the Tet offensive took the greatest military power in the world completely by surprise and they knew they were in a full scale war and had hundreds if not thousands of CIA operating in the country. Seeing sand niggers jumping about with an AK47 screaming and shouting is probably all in a days work on that border ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,678 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, chartpolski said: What I can’t understand is how Hamas could bulldoze the border fence and come pouring through and it took so long for the IDF to respond ? No patrols, no cctv, no aerial surveillance ? Not like the Yehudi’s to not be on the ball ! Cheers. Apparently its 1 of their big holidays so most were stood down 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,666 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, paulus said: This was certainly not just planned by the Palestinian's alone. Someone clever enough to work out how many rockets it would take to overload Israel's Iron Curtain defence system, Then there's the coordination of the attack, The issue i don't understand is how it was all kept secret from the Israel`s security forces, A few thousand missiles and mobs of armed men massing at areas along the boarder must have been noticed. The person i can see to gain most out of a big escalation in the region would be Putin. It splits the West into having to supply the hard ware to two places at once, Yes i do understand that Iran is probably the main player but who is the puppet master. I hope they withdraw all support from Ukraine and send the lot to Israel, and hopefully Putin hangs that horrible c**t Zelensky ! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chartpolski 23,244 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Bakerboy said: Apparently its 1 of their big holidays so most were stood down I worked with the Royal Saudi Airforce at the Air Defence Centre in Riyadh back in the 70’s and one specialist could track every Israeli air movement near the borders. I know that surveillance has improved massively since then, so even if everyone was on leave, which is doubtful, there would have been automated responses to any breaches. Someone seems to have been asleep….. Cheers. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, WILF said: I hope they withdraw all support from Ukraine and send the lot to Israel, and hopefully Putin hangs that horrible c**t Zelensky ! Hamas spokesperson was just on the news, He said "No civilians were killed or injured during yesterdays raids" Then spouted something about them all be intelligence typists or military hackers, I think what he actually meant was, All Israeli's are legitimate targets, The UN is already condemning Israel for cutting off the water, food, fuel and electricity to Gazza today. I hope our security forces have upped there game as there will be situations here of that i have no doubt. I believe that if a pole of ordinary people was asked if they support the war in Ukraine then the answer would be a shock to out political elite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,666 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 It must be serious, they have issued the Irish Defence Force in Lebanon with 25 litres of blue paint and new paint brushes ! Things just got real ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,731 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, WILF said: It must be serious, they have issued the Irish Defence Force in Lebanon with 25 litres of blue paint and new paint brushes ! Things just got real ! As expected over here, sinn fein and the republicans showing support for the terrorists, they the IRA and sinn fein have a massive Palestine flag displayed on the mountain overlooking west belfast. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,666 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: As expected over here, sinn fein and the republicans showing support for the terrorists, they the IRA and sinn fein have a massive Palestine flag displayed on the mountain overlooking west belfast. Did you expect anything else mate ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy H 424 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 So what's going to happen? A total blockade is enforced on Gaza, no water, power, fuel or food. Possibly that won't be lifted until the hostages are released but if not, I can see the hostages being sacrificed to wipe out Gaza. Tanks and artillery are massing around Gaza, I think the Israelis are going to do a proper job this time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Timmy H said: So what's going to happen? A total blockade is enforced on Gaza, no water, power, fuel or food. Possibly that won't be lifted until the hostages are released but if not, I can see the hostages being sacrificed to wipe out Gaza. Tanks and artillery are massing around Gaza, I think the Israelis are going to do a proper job this time. Hamas will want a prisoner swap at some point, But judging by the tone of the Israeli Government then the Palestinian's are going to pay a high price for what they have done, Get ready for all the bleating hearts brigade and the # Palestine crap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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