mel b 2,792 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ditchman said: my proctologist..........is going going to give me hell on tuesday...when he goes in for a gander Ask him to take a video . You'll be half way to an eel pie . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 2,843 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, mel b said: Ask him to take a video . You'll be half way to an eel pie . believe me that is one pie you wouldnt want to eat...........far to rich....and quite piqaunt.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mel b 2,792 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, ditchman said: believe me that is one pie you wouldnt want to eat...........far to rich....and quite piqaunt.. It'll taste like a well hung pheasant . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,931 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 I had polish neighbours about 25 years ago, and they ate, on their bbqs practically every day, summer and winter, the fish they caught from my local stretch of the taff, trout, perch, eels, roach etc etc, anything they caught. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
comanche 3,077 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 hours ago, fireman said: The ponds you see in big farm house gardens and larger houses are called stew ponds and they were living larders from a time when we were god fearing christians that ate fish on a friday, carp and perch were favorites on old english tables and the larger house and farms had them as the owners were rich enough to have them dug in the first place. Just a bit of factual history for some of you that might not have known,,, Fireman ,there were actually three "Fish Days " a week during much of the Mediaeval Period. And that didn't include special religious holidays . Most of the fish eaten was salted or smoked sea fish. Herring were pretty much a currency in their own right . Oysters were poor man's food and there were so many salmon in many rivers that they too were considered peasant fare. You are right though about the stews . They were for the rich . Providing pike and bream for a feast or gifting breeding stock to friends was the mark of a rich man or thriving religious order . Although monks always get the credit for pioneering fish farming ,in truth they generally employed managers to deal with their farms and ponds or rented them out. Most of the big estate lakes were more ornamental. Every Gentleman of any worth had to have one to compliment his deer park. Though a man was more likely to feed his prize carp than eat them . Though he might give a few away as a mark of his generosity . Me ? I rate perch and gudgeon very highly . I've only eaten a couple of grayling but they were good too . Took me a while to find a way of cooking eels that l like, then they got rare and protected Pike's Ok but boney. Then as someone noted earlier in the thread , the Europeans are far more adaptable when it comes to recipes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
comanche 3,077 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, shaaark said: I had polish neighbours about 25 years ago, and they ate, on their bbqs practically every day, summer and winter, the fish they caught from my local stretch of the taff, trout, perch, eels, roach etc etc, anything they caught. I spent some time chatting to a Romanian angler who was fishing near me a few years ago. He showed me photographs of him and his relatives standing with maybe 20 carp that they had caught for a big family BBQ. Apparently they fish sections of dammed rivers . These places are maintained rather like our put and take trout fisheries . You pay a fee to fish and are allowed to keep your catch. On the subject of eating a uk carp a polite version of his answer would be " No way. They are fed on shxxx and swim in their shxxx and would taste like shxxx " 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 FRIDAY came from the pagan godess FREYA. The sacred symbol for Freya was a fish, so people ate fish on a Friday to honour her. Modern religions stole this tradition, like many others, to push out paganism, and convert the masses. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, comanche said: I spent some time chatting to a Romanian angler who was fishing near me a few years ago. He showed me photographs of him and his relatives standing with maybe 20 carp that they had caught for a big family BBQ. Apparently they fish sections of dammed rivers . These places are maintained rather like our put and take trout fisheries . You pay a fee to fish and are allowed to keep your catch. On the subject of eating a uk carp a polite version of his answer would be " No way. They are fed on shxxx and swim in their shxxx and would taste like shxxx " Wasn't it Hugh Fernley Whittingstall that had the carp in the bath? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
comanche 3,077 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, EDDIE B said: Wasn't it Hugh Fernley Whittingstall that had the carp in the bath? It was , if l recall he had caught in a pond then floated it in a bath with river water flowing through it to cleanse it . Illegal but no one noticed . Then the river flooded and it escaped 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
comanche 3,077 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, EDDIE B said: FRIDAY came from the pagan godess FREYA. The sacred symbol for Freya was a fish, so people ate fish on a Friday to honour her. Modern religions stole this tradition, like many others, to push out paganism, and convert the masses. Interesting A minor contributing reason could also be that fishermen were more likely to be coming into port with their catch than leaving port. They considered it bad luck to sail on a Friday. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ditchman 2,843 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, comanche said: Fireman ,there were actually three "Fish Days " a week during much of the Mediaeval Period. And that didn't include special religious holidays . Most of the fish eaten was salted or smoked sea fish. Herring were pretty much a currency in their own right . Oysters were poor man's food and there were so many salmon in many rivers that they too were considered peasant fare. You are right though about the stews . They were for the rich . Providing pike and bream for a feast or gifting breeding stock to friends was the mark of a rich man or thriving religious order . Although monks always get the credit for pioneering fish farming ,in truth they generally employed managers to deal with their farms and ponds or rented them out. Most of the big estate lakes were more ornamental. Every Gentleman of any worth had to have one to compliment his deer park. Though a man was more likely to feed his prize carp than eat them . Though he might give a few away as a mark of his generosity . Me ? I rate perch and gudgeon very highly . I've only eaten a couple of grayling but they were good too . Took me a while to find a way of cooking eels that l like, then they got rare and protected Pike's Ok but boney. Then as someone noted earlier in the thread , the Europeans are far more adaptable when it comes to recipes. smoked eel on buttered toast ....is bloody good eating....the dutch have that for breakfast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,923 Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, shaaark said: I had polish neighbours about 25 years ago, and they ate, on their bbqs practically every day, summer and winter, the fish they caught from my local stretch of the taff, trout, perch, eels, roach etc etc, anything they caught. Thats the fecking problem, everything is for the pot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 27,779 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just been into a Chinese supermarket and saw carp. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Councilestatekid 1,974 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 In Hungary and places like that they stock the lakes with carp for locals to fish and eat think they can take any under a weight limit so the bigger ones are left for sport anglers and breeding some big ones in some lakes 60+ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,622 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, Councilestatekid said: In Hungary and places like that they stock the lakes with carp for locals to fish and eat think they can take any under a weight limit so the bigger ones are left for sport anglers and breeding some big ones in some lakes 60+ Sounds fair Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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