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8 minutes ago, Qbgrey said:

Wilf if you into football that’s great, I played for years but got fed up of the bickering between ref, kids, parents etc, no need for it it just a sport let the kids get on. The ref should be able to.  Control  the game 100%  in any sport.  Im not sure it’s tribal, just a bunch of teams having a good time , lots of  public  on the train joining in the songs because they did nt feel scared. If you got 2 teams if football fans in a train all hell would break loose. All over a sport 

Fair enough mate, I don’t think all that caper between fans happens now days like most people think it does….it’s all yesterdays news or in films, I think reality is different.

I used to take my oldest down the hammers with no worries whatsoever when he was still a tiddler.

Its all old farts like me or office weekend offenders now.

It was scarier walking back to barking station after a night game if the tube wasn’t running ! Lol 

With under age players of any sport I’m a 100% with you, no place for screaming parents shouting negative stuff or thinking it’s the World Cup…..but I’ll reiterate, a strong coach protects his players and kills that in its infancy.

I wouldn’t tolerate it when I coached under age players, not from parents, not from other coaches, not from anyone.

Dont forget also, that a referee has the power to protect players at under age because he can stop and abandon the game at any time if he thinks it’s all out of hand….clubs, spectators etc won’t have a leg to stand on…..it’s purely the refs decision. 
 Under age players are protected, they don’t even publicise scores of games below 12 age group and rightly so….who cares 

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Seeing stuff like that destroys you a bit mate, so let me give you a little bit of positive to restore your faith in the world a bit. Little lad aged 18 months lives down the way in my parish, he

Maybe I'm just "old school", but I've allways thought you leave kids and women out of it......... Cheers.

No surprise at football, the refs  get abuse, parents arguing with each other, foul language all across the board. No respect shown with the fans.I’ve been to a under 15s rugby match this morning, the

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1 hour ago, WILF said:

Fair enough mate, I don’t think all that caper between fans happens now days like most people think it does….it’s all yesterdays news or in films, I think reality is different.

I used to take my oldest down the hammers with no worries whatsoever when he was still a tiddler.

Its all old farts like me or office weekend offenders now.

It was scarier walking back to barking station after a night game if the tube wasn’t running ! Lol 

With under age players of any sport I’m a 100% with you, no place for screaming parents shouting negative stuff or thinking it’s the World Cup…..but I’ll reiterate, a strong coach protects his players and kills that in its infancy.

I wouldn’t tolerate it when I coached under age players, not from parents, not from other coaches, not from anyone.

Dont forget also, that a referee has the power to protect players at under age because he can stop and abandon the game at any time if he thinks it’s all out of hand….clubs, spectators etc won’t have a leg to stand on…..it’s purely the refs decision. 
 Under age players are protected, they don’t even publicise scores of games below 12 age group and rightly so….who cares 

Yup wilf I believe it’s changing regards football fans,when our kids was in the youth teams if a team was getting a thrashing it was widely know that you took off your best players to let the other team get on the score board. No one likes  arse walloping. 

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37 minutes ago, Qbgrey said:

Yup wilf I believe it’s changing regards football fans,when our kids was in the youth teams if a team was getting a thrashing it was widely know that you took off your best players to let the other team get on the score board. No one likes  arse walloping. 

Yep, it serves nothing mate, your not developing players doing that…you are crushing them instead.

Ultimately for every coach at grass roots it should be about giving young people a love of the game and keeping it alive no matter what their ability, that gos for your team and any team that you play.

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As for the pricks getting at the Sunderland kid well thats just pathetic.....but most of the outrage at things said and done at the footy these days is just another way of attacking British tradition and culture, when it happens abroad it barely makes the papers but having been given no choice whatsoever in creating stadiums with atmospheres fit for women/children in Britain we're all now expected to act like choirboys and not have the basic banter and rivalry football culture has always had.

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47 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

As for the pricks getting at the Sunderland kid well thats just pathetic.....but most of the outrage at things said and done at the footy these days is just another way of attacking British tradition and culture, when it happens abroad it barely makes the papers but having been given no choice whatsoever in creating stadiums with atmospheres fit for women/children in Britain we're all now expected to act like choirboys and not have the basic banter and rivalry football culture has always had.

Tragedy chanting was never part of our football  culture. I tell what was, applauding the opposition when they scored a brilliant  goal or occasionally giving a standing ovation to an opposition player who had dictated a match. I can  also remember being passed over adults heads so I could see better at the front. Sounds a bit nostalgic, like the hovis kid, but it's true.

There's a lot of sheer hatred at matches these days. I don't get it. These aren't just working class lads having a tear up with opposition fans after a match. They are all willing participants so I don't see anything wrong with that. But some grown men are obviously letting go of a lot of ugly frustration. Something to do with the pace and the stress of modern life these days I reckon. I wouldn't be comfortable taking a young kid to a match these days, too many muppets frothing at the mouth.

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40 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Tragedy chanting was never part of our football  culture. I tell what was, applauding the opposition when they scored a brilliant  goal or occasionally giving a standing ovation to an opposition player who had dictated a match. I can  also remember being passed over adults heads so I could see better at the front. Sounds a bit nostalgic, like the hovis kid, but it's true.

There's a lot of sheer hatred at matches these days. I don't get it. These aren't just working class lads having a tear up with opposition fans after a match. They are all willing participants so I don't see anything wrong with that. But some grown men are obviously letting go of a lot of ugly frustration. Something to do with the pace and the stress of modern life these days I reckon. I wouldn't be comfortable taking a young kid to a match these days, too many muppets frothing at the mouth.

I go to football all over the country and rarely see or hear anything upsetting or offending but then im not a fragile delicate little mincer thats going to cry if someone shouts a naughty word........not saying you are either by the way.....but with cameras potentially on every single face in the ground theres far less aggro at football these days the lengths they'll go to in order to identify someone who throws a coin or shouts out something racial.

As for applauding other teams thats all bollocks as far as im concerned Man City for years seem to think they've had some sort of intimate loving relationship with my Hammers because we applauded them off the pitch one year....f**k that never again 😆......football never did or ever should be pressured into having the manners and politeness of your ooty tooty Rugby crowd.

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I know feck all about any of these children's ball games that you all seem to get so excited about.

But listening to your descriptions here I'm thinking rugby would be more my scene. Is rugby the one with the funny shaped ball? 

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On 01/10/2023 at 08:58, WILF said:

Seeing stuff like that destroys you a bit mate, so let me give you a little bit of positive to restore your faith in the world a bit.

Little lad aged 18 months lives down the way in my parish, he has something wrong with his brain and the family are having Christmas early in case he don’t make it.

My postman turned up the other morning with his van absolutely freighted up, I asked the score and he said he was delivering 5000 cards to the house and another 10,000 this week.

A bloke had driven 120 miles before work to put up an inflatable snow globe in the front garden so it was there when the little boy woke up then went home again and went to work….all off his own back.

Moonpig has said anyone sending cards to that address gets free postage and I think they will need a lorry for the presents.

Theres still good human beings and proper community’s out there mate, don’t let c**ts like that get in your head space 

 I once heard someone say you can find good in everything if you look for it . It was at the time of the Boston marathon bombing and the guy said "look for the helpers , look for the people running to help the injured " . It stuck in my mind from that day .

In this case look at the people rounding round the family of the kid that died 

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15 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Tragedy chanting was never part of our football  culture. I tell what was, applauding the opposition when they scored a brilliant  goal or occasionally giving a standing ovation to an opposition player who had dictated a match. I can  also remember being passed over adults heads so I could see better at the front. Sounds a bit nostalgic, like the hovis kid, but it's true.

There's a lot of sheer hatred at matches these days. I don't get it. These aren't just working class lads having a tear up with opposition fans after a match. They are all willing participants so I don't see anything wrong with that. But some grown men are obviously letting go of a lot of ugly frustration. Something to do with the pace and the stress of modern life these days I reckon. I wouldn't be comfortable taking a young kid to a match these days, too many muppets frothing at the mouth.

id disagree jukel just look whenever england played germany 

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