mackem 26,708 Posted October 2, 2023 Report Share Posted October 2, 2023 Nature is always cruel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 hours ago, mackem said: Nature is always cruel. Bears are fairly sloppy, when it comes to killing things 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 1,869 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 On 01/10/2023 at 20:19, Welsh_red said: I was in either Borth animalariun or folly farm once , can't remember which (Mrs would remember) me and the Mrs & kids were watching a Rhea and it's baby in their enclosure and for no identifiable reason the rhea started kicking and stamping on its young one until it was dead then just casually walked around . We went and got one of the workers and got him to come and see what had happened and he said " yeah that happens every so often " . Dead bird was put in a barrow and taken away soon after I wonder if maybe the parent bird (or other animal in other, similar cases) simply knows something that we don't. Maybe they know that there was something wrong with it and simply 'put it out of its misery.' Many years ago, when I was at art college in Falmouth, my landlady had two or three cats. She told me that she'd had a siamese once which was repeatedly attacked by her other cats. She kept it separate from the others but came home once to find it had all but destroyed her curtains. When she took it to the vet for their opinion she discovered that it was born both male and female. They assumed that the other cats simply didn't know how to act towards it and so ganged up on it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,649 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Neal said: I wonder if maybe the parent bird (or other animal in other, similar cases) simply knows something that we don't. Maybe they know that there was something wrong with it and simply 'put it out of its misery.' Many years ago, when I was at art college in Falmouth, my landlady had two or three cats. She told me that she'd had a siamese once which was repeatedly attacked by her other cats. She kept it separate from the others but came home once to find it had all but destroyed her curtains. When she took it to the vet for their opinion she discovered that it was born both male and female. They assumed that the other cats simply didn't know how to act towards it and so ganged up on it. Yeah that's a good thought . Animals probably have a more workmanlike approach to children than us . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,166 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Maybe it has something to do with the parent bird/animal, more so than the chick/cub. Like a sick, or stressed dog, that kills its pups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,919 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Neal said: I wonder if maybe the parent bird (or other animal in other, similar cases) simply knows something that we don't. Maybe they know that there was something wrong with it and simply 'put it out of its misery.' Many years ago, when I was at art college in Falmouth, my landlady had two or three cats. She told me that she'd had a siamese once which was repeatedly attacked by her other cats. She kept it separate from the others but came home once to find it had all but destroyed her curtains. When she took it to the vet for their opinion she discovered that it was born both male and female. They assumed that the other cats simply didn't know how to act towards it and so ganged up on it. It's not the rarest of things to find a pair of birds will just not feed a chick and even toss it out the nest and i think they know something is wrong with it so don't waste there time with trying to rear a non starter.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,558 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Its only us humans that think nature is cruel...over time, we have become weak,we have been moulded to keep fellow humans with serious health problems around us,for our own selfish needs(keeps the big pharmaceuticals and health services in work), lets be honest...back in the day,if there was something wrong with a newborn baby,it would of been left out in the elements...fate and the so called Gods decided it it lived or not.....simpler times indeed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: Its only us humans that think nature is cruel...over time, we have become weak,we have been moulded to keep fellow humans with serious health problems around us,for our own selfish needs(keeps the big pharmaceuticals and health services in work), lets be honest...back in the day,if there was something wrong with a newborn baby,it would of been left out in the elements...fate and the so called Gods decided it it lived or not.....simpler times indeed I think Stephen Hawking may prove some of what you are saying is not correct. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,558 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 1 minute ago, paulus said: I think Stephen Hawking may prove some of what you are saying is not correct. Lol I stand by my words...we keep lots of dead wood around us... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, Daniel cain said: I stand by my words...we keep lots of dead wood around us... Always remember in very cold weather its only the dead wood that keeps you warm Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,558 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Just now, paulus said: Always remember in very cold weather its only the dead wood that keeps you warm Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,708 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 11 hours ago, EDDIE B said: Bears are fairly sloppy, when it comes to killing things Saw this on the news the other week,some of the trekkers were saying the bears wanted to “walk with them”,a bear expert said the bears are laying on fat reserves as winter is coming,they followed the group and made bluff charges to size them up,looking to see who wasn’t up to strength,it’s only 30 miles from where the couple and their dog were killed the other day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,649 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 2 hours ago, mackem said: Saw this on the news the other week,some of the trekkers were saying the bears wanted to “walk with them”,a bear expert said the bears are laying on fat reserves as winter is coming,they followed the group and made bluff charges to size them up,looking to see who wasn’t up to strength,it’s only 30 miles from where the couple and their dog were killed the other day. If I went walking in bear areas I'd take 2 pistols on me at all time 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 6,120 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Interesting watch... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaff 3,622 Posted October 3, 2023 Report Share Posted October 3, 2023 Not if it works for all but hunter tangles with bear, and he new a bit too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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