Obesity

[Bakerboy 4,736]

Was 1 in Cwm colliery he was open about it, got some stick but didnt give a fck, I didnt know him I worked at different pits, he was 1 of them straight acting ones, might have been different if he was the camp type

[Chaff 3,621]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

I can remember driving a steam roller and of the lad's  made me stop whilst he asked me a daft question. I started up again, felt a bump and all the lad's started screaming and shouting. I looked back and all I could see was a body complete with yellow rain coat and wellies. I was convinced I had flattened some poor bugger. Turned out someone had thrown a jacket and wellies under the roller whilst another workmate distracted me.

I only saw the funny side after a few minutes. I was white with shock.Lol

Wicked sense of humour that

[paulus 26]

13 hours ago, WILF said:

British Governments have run up a debt that will take 8000 years to pay off if they stopped the clock today and paid back a million a day !……letting some poor single mum and her kids starve and become homeless would save everyone about 5p a week !……maybe ?

It’s not the benefit people pissing your money away  

I read somewhere that the amount of money  in terms of aid, weapon's platforms and Ammunition given to Ukraine by the USA was equal to $100,000 dollars for each citizen, 

[Chaff 3,621]

1 minute ago, paulus said:

I read somewhere that the amount of money  in terms of aid, weapon's platforms and Ammunition given to Ukraine by the USA was equal to $100,000 dollars for each citizen, 

I read something that said they were washing taxpayers money and filtering it back to themselves lol

We will never know the truth that you can bank on 

[WILF 46,832]

34 minutes ago, paulus said:

I read somewhere that the amount of money  in terms of aid, weapon's platforms and Ammunition given to Ukraine by the USA was equal to $100,000 dollars for each citizen, 

Americas story is even “better”…..if they stopped the debt clock today and paid back a million a day……it would take them 60,000 years to pay it back !

Its why all those stupid daily Mail type “mum of 6 gets a council house and £500 a week” story’s are just total f***ing nonsense designed to get everyone looking in the wrong direction ! 

[WILF 46,832]

17 hours ago, paulus said:

Again one could argue that if you have kids and getting child benefit and child tax credits, Then i am paying for your kids Lol

How would you feel about taking anyone with more than 2 kids or on less than 30 grand a year out of the tax system altogether ? 

[WILF 46,832]

17 hours ago, Chaff said:

There are 4 in the next village along from me lol might do 20 haircuts a week between them probably got 50k going through books though cash only.

And ?……who cares ?

If they taxed them for every last penny you nor anyone else living in Britain wouldnt see a ha’penny of it……more in their pocket the more they have to spend in the community, hopefully all in cash as well. 
 

There’s a nasty little punitive mindset I’m Britain that wants to see other people getting hurt, be that more tax on things and earnings or a cut in benefits or a parking ticket for people dropping kids off to school……it’s petty and it’s ugly and it makes folks who spew it look very small indeed.

What people should be asking is “where has all money they did take off us gone, who got it, what did it get spent on and why does my country look worse for it ?” 
 

I’ll bet you one thing, it wasn’t the grandchild of the ex miner in the wrecked ex pit village getting £50 a week dole or the bloke that got paid a few hundred quid in readies ! 

 

[WILF 46,832]

19 hours ago, paulus said:

The local town here will soon have nothing to offer but places to eat and drink coffee, visit second hand shops or have you hair and nails done.

And the answer as to why is in the first post “I’m sitting outside Tesco…..”

Thats not a dig at Jukel, it’s just highlighting the situation……parking wardens all over the show, small business owners taxed and regulated to death, supermarket 1 hit weekly shopping instead of going local every day (you can’t, your both out at work paying a bank a mortgage for a number they just wrote down on a bit of paper), the beef in the supermarket if fed GM supplements to get it to slaughter weight by 30 months and is so full of un-natural fat it’s unbelievable.

who’s winning and who’s responsible ?…….because it ain’t the fat bloke or the bloke that used to be the local butcher but now works for Amazon ! 

[jukel123 8,055]

"It's the poor which gets the blame."

Working class people always blame each other and point to the family on the dole as a reason for the country's ills. That's because benefit claimants are in their line of vision. What people don't see is middle and upper class crime. Monumental tax fraud, gifting the tories money for some payback ,be it a government contract or a peerage. A world controlled by the public school elite/ mafia.

There were claims this week that the average British worker takes 7.2 days of work per week and this was losing the country billions. In fact we are way down the league as far as other countries. German workers take 22 days off work through sickness. And they are fully paid. Lots of UK jobs do not pay sickness benefit. But never mind lads you can claim just over a 100 quid a week...which might just fill your van with diesel.

We are told UK pensions are unaffordable and out of control. But the UK spends only just over 4% of its GDP on pensions whereas the greeks pay 16% Italy 15 %,France 15%. The Germans are quite miserly and pay just over 10%.

This country is not run for its citizens,( sorry humble subjects of King Charles) its run by and for the mega rich. Point these things out and you are labelled a lefty,ironically by other working class people. 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2023 by jukel123

[WILF 46,832]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

"It's the poor which gets the blame."

Working class people always blame each other and point to the family on the dole as a reason for the country's ills. That's because benefit claimants are in their line of vision. What people don't see is middle and upper class crime. Monumental tax fraud, gifting the tories money for some payback ,be it a government contract or a peerage. A world controlled by the public school elite/ mafia.

There were claims this week that the average British worker takes 7.2 days of work per week and this was losing the country billions. In fact we are way down the league as far as other countries. German workers take 22 days off work through sickness. And they are fully paid. Lots of UK jobs do not pay sickness benefit. But never mind lads you can claim just over a 100 quid a week...which might just fill your van with diesel.

We are told UK pensions are unaffordable and out of control. But the UK spends only just over 4% of its GDP on pensions whereas the greeks pay 16% Italy 15 %,France 15%. The Germans are quite miserly and pay just over 10%.

This country is not run for its citizens,( sorry humble subjects of King Charles) its run by and for the mega rich. Point these things out and you are labelled a lefty,ironically by other working class people. 

 

 

I broadly agree with all that mate, we differ a bit on the idea of class, I think just about everyone would be regarded as middle class now days and I also don’t believe that taxing anyone one penny more would be a direct and visible benefit to any person in Britain……the country has never been in such rag order despite the highest tax and biggest debt in history.

They would just piss it away on some other nonsense.

But as I say, I broadly agree with a lot of that. 

[mel b 2,416]

4 hours ago, jukel123 said:

I can remember driving a steam roller and of the lad's  made me stop whilst he asked me a daft question. I started up again, felt a bump and all the lad's started screaming and shouting. I looked back and all I could see was a body complete with yellow rain coat and wellies. I was convinced I had flattened some poor bugger. Turned out someone had thrown a jacket and wellies under the roller whilst another workmate distracted me.

I only saw the funny side after a few minutes. I was white with shock.Lol

You can always rely on your mates to be complete cxxxx

[paulus 26]

3 hours ago, WILF said:

How would you feel about taking anyone with more than 2 kids or on less than 30 grand a year out of the tax system altogether ? 

Would get my vote mate as would a fixed 20% tax levy on earning over that amount

[DIDO.1 22,837]

While I genuinely agree with what Wilf says . I would also add that those dole dossers and people with kids they can't afford do effect the fabric of society even if they don't effect it financially. And you can see the damage they do increasing by the day. 

I grew up on a council estate. I live 500 yrds from said estate today. Mum still lives there. Now I could walk you round that estate today and ask you to guess which people work and which people don't. You would be able to pick out the dole dossers and claimers houses 100% of the time. While those that work have, in general, pride in their homes. The dossers have none of that.

The basis, in my opinion, of a decent level society is personal responsibility. My mum worked in the mills half her working life and in care industry the second half. Dad was a blacksmith and pest controller. We had nowt, genuinely, never went abroad, never had a car . Yet, like a lot of you, we genuinely wanted for nothing. Today you could walk round the estate and pick out those that do nothing, have everything and want for everything. 

I think we would all agree that the elites Wilf blames are to blame for creating this situation, creating these victims, creating this dependency and taking the profits. But I'm not going to have any respect either for scum bags, scroats and dosers. 

[jukel123 8,055]

37 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

While I genuinely agree with what Wilf says . I would also add that those dole dossers and people with kids they can't afford do effect the fabric of society even if they don't effect it financially. And you can see the damage they do increasing by the day. 

I grew up on a council estate. I live 500 yrds from said estate today. Mum still lives there. Now I could walk you round that estate today and ask you to guess which people work and which people don't. You would be able to pick out the dole dossers and claimers houses 100% of the time. While those that work have, in general, pride in their homes. The dossers have none of that.

The basis, in my opinion, of a decent level society is personal responsibility. My mum worked in the mills half her working life and in care industry the second half. Dad was a blacksmith and pest controller. We had nowt, genuinely, never went abroad, never had a car . Yet, like a lot of you, we genuinely wanted for nothing. Today you could walk round the estate and pick out those that do nothing, have everything and want for everything. 

I think we would all agree that the elites Wilf blames are to blame for creating this situation, creating these victims, creating this dependency and taking the profits. But I'm not going to have any respect either for scum bags, scroats and dosers. 

I understand completely. There is an underclass now who don't play by the rules. Don't even understand the rules. They are anti social. Much of it is fuelled by drug dependency and genuine fuckwits. And it's the poor who have to deal with them. Live alongside them. In the old days the anti social were policed by communities. Now its the fuckwits who do the policing.

As I've said many times the tories place asylum seekers in the poorest areas. Areas which are already reeling from housing shortages, chronic poverty, petty crime and anti social behaviour. I guarantee you will never find a refugee in Hamstead or Richmond on Thames. They are all in the North. Its not going to change despite this garbage about " levelling up".

Where I differ from others is that I believe the problem is to do with rich and poor. There is a war being waged by the tories on the working class. Since Thatcher they have f****d us over year upon year. Even with two people working you can still be poor. They have attacked the health service, education, the right to strike, housing,they have even tried to stop us voting by changes to the electoral system. The whole history of the working class has been one of attack from the tories. It's us who fight in the front line, us who do all the shit work, us who have more industrial disease and us  who die earlier. Sometimes decades earlier. People will dismiss me as a dinosaur.  But the facts speak for themselves. 

Is new Labour any better? I cant honestly say yes. I have no confidence in them. They are part of the problem . Blair is a disgusting mass murderer, Bush's lap dog. And now, miraculously  a multi millionaire. Starmer and New Labour are tory light.  But for me tory light is better than full on  tory vicious. Even Blair and  Brown increased spending on the health service and education to the same level as the rest of civilised Europe. Since then our spending on health and education is way below other European countries.

 

 

Edited September 28, 2023 by jukel123

[mackem 26,520]

5 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I guarantee you will never find a refugee in Richmond on Thames. 

That’s not accurate,I am in Richmond quite a bit,the Refugees are welcome in Richmond are quite active and have been for years.