Brian Plummer.

[Bakerboy 4,737]

22 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Plummer  brought the world of lurchers, terriers and ferrets out into the public  arena. Previously, the only time  you saw the word 'lurcher' was in the now defunct Exchange and Mart which was a weekly magazine where you could buy all,sorts. A bit like an offline Ebay. I guess he set Hancock up in business and despite producing some duffers, he also produced some cracking dogs.

Those who knew him reckon he was a wrong un, or partly a wrong un, but he did introduce a lot of folk into the sport because of his writings. I believe his terriers delivered what they said on the tin.

I hear this a lot that he brought people to the working dog world, but could never work out what the benifits were, 1000's of lunatics bringing bad exposure to a relatively unheard of sport is about all I can think of

[jukel123 9,046]

Just now, tatsblisters said:

Only fault I found in his later writings was his promotion of collie crosses due to his mate setting up a collie x breeding farm and other lurcher crosses referring them to bitzas as to seem inferior to the collie x . I know when I bred the two dogs in my profile picture in 84 both of them a mix of beddy grey x collie grey with a touch of deerhound down the line a couple of lads who had booked a pup chose to go to Hancock instead as they had been took in by Plummers sales pitch. The terriers I am on about were rough haired mongrelly types he had brought from Wales though by all accounts very good earth dogs. 

Yeah, you're right. Collie crosses are OK for those who can gel with them, but not all of us can or want to. I remember him saying saluki blood should never be  brought into bitzas. Can't remember why. He considered himself an authority on lurchers, which is questionable. There are genuine authorities  out there... Old Phil and Skycat  and a lot of lads who aren't on the Internet. But, as I say he entertained and got a lot of folk interested.

[jukel123 9,046]

Just now, Bakerboy said:

I hear this a lot that he brought people to the working dog world, but could never work out what the benifits were, 1000's of lunatics bringing bad exposure to a relatively unheard of sport is about all I can think of

Fair point mate.

[Bakerboy 4,737]

4 minutes ago, jeemes said:

Yes he was a bit of a liar and a bullshitter but lets not forget he was also a twat!!!

And a fckn grass

[jukel123 9,046]

Just now, Bakerboy said:

And a fckn grass

Tell us more.

[tatsblisters 10,582]

2 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Yeah, you're right. Collie crosses are OK for those who can gel with them, but not all of us can or want to. I remember him saying saluki blood should never be  brought into bitzas. Can't remember why. He considered himself an authority on lurchers, which is questionable. There are genuine authorities  out there... Old Phil and Skycat  and a lot of lads who aren't on the Internet. But, as I say he entertained and got a lot of folk interested.

Think he had to eat his words when someone sent him a vid of lucky the dark destroyer and Nuttals Foxy about bitzas with saluki in the mix. Lol

[jeemes 4,599]

4 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

I hear this a lot that he brought people to the working dog world, but could never work out what the benifits were, 1000's of lunatics bringing bad exposure to a relatively unheard of sport is about all I can think of

Spot on I agree. He opened up a world of storytellers, book writers and posers. Ive read a lot of his books, and derived entertainment from them, in the same way I would from watching the office. He was a great influence on a lot of young lads in starting out, but he didnt encourage he just made most feel inferior because they could never achieve the kind of feats he spoke of as normal. A lot of lads were frustrated that their little Collie lurchers were not smashing Foxs every week like Merle!!  What a joke!! A dynasty!!  Grandiose, deluded, like a lot of school teachers.

[Bakerboy 4,737]

32 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Tell us more.

He threatened to report a writer to the then DHSS for writing articles for a magazine, blokes wife was ill at the time, obviously plummer didnt want any competition especially from someone who done/knew more that he did

[jukel123 9,046]

11 minutes ago, jeemes said:

Spot on I agree. He opened up a world of storytellers, book writers and posers. Ive read a lot of his books, and derived entertainment from them, in the same way I would from watching the office. He was a great influence on a lot of young lads in starting out, but he didnt encourage he just made most feel inferior because they could never achieve the kind of feats he spoke of as normal. A lot of lads were frustrated that their little Collie lurchers were not smashing Foxs every week like Merle!!  What a joke!! A dynasty!!  Grandiose, deluded, like a lot of school teachers.

Agree, he did often  talk down to his readers. I can remember feeling uneasy about some of his opinions which came from his social class and not mine. I can remember one article in which he spoke down about people who had tattoes. He stated he would never employ anybody with a tattoo. And that was for a kennel assistant..a shit shoveller. I don't have any tattoes but people can do what they want  and shouldn't be denied a job because of someone's bias.

[chartpolski 25,493]

The most stolen library books of his era evidently.

Cheers.

[mackem 28,398]

43 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

The most stolen library books of his era evidently.

Cheers.

Take the book from the shelf,nonchalantly look left,right,then left again then slip the book into your school blazer inside “Shoplifting” pocket or your school haversack,depart library with your “Treasure” #booktheft101

One thing I have wondered,what was he a Dr of?

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

I bet all the dog lads wish they had dogs as good as his

[Chaff 3,636]

54 minutes ago, mackem said:

Take the book from the shelf,nonchalantly look left,right,then left again then slip the book into your school blazer inside “Shoplifting” pocket or your school haversack,depart library with your “Treasure” #booktheft101

One thing I have wondered,what was he a Dr of?

What subject did he teach at school mac ?

[tatsblisters 10,582]

26 minutes ago, Chaff said:

What subject did he teach at school mac ?

Lads who I know he teached it was at junior school as their form teacher so would have covered most subjects back then. 

[Chaff 3,636]

1 minute ago, tatsblisters said:

Lads who I know he teached it was at junior school as their form teacher so would have covered most subjects back then. 

I thought perhaps he was a physics teacher or something and got the title from that.