XL Bully Ban Incoming

[jukel123 7,957]

13 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

Just read a few comments on a local XL bully Facebook page. The popular opinion is that dogs that kill people have done it because they have never been shown love and affection. 

This is going to be an absolute shite show that the government can't do a single thing about 

These XL owners are deluded. The tabloids are willing to point out the danger of these dogs and then when push  comes to shove, they print sob stories about harmless, loving  Fido being  prised from the loving arms of its caring owners. Its only a "shitshow" if the media whip up sympathy for sweet, affectionate Fido and fire neanderthals up.

Personally if some mastiffs  and  XL  crosses are seized then hard luck. There's always individual losers when it comes to the greater good. I would advocate that its up to owners to prove a dog IS Not an XL and not the police having to prove a particular dog is an XL. If its saves an individual human life a few mistaken dog identities would be worth it.

Edited September 16, 2023 by jukel123

[Borr 5,742]

Think the outcome is neutering and muzzles in public. Neutering if effectively rolled out might at least reduce numbers peddled. And negative media might make them too hot and unpopular door some elements 

[Lenmcharristar 9,721]

The truth is they will just move onto another breed

[paulus 26]

Lets be honest these types of dogs are great if you live in a wilderness environment and need to protect yourselves and your livestock from dangerous wildlife or in an industrial environment to protect what's yours,  To not give them no purpose in a domestic suburban environment is just an accident waiting to happen, In general society. is there really a need for anyone to own such a dog, docile or not?. 

[Borr 5,742]

1 hour ago, paulus said:

Lets be honest these types of dogs are great if you live in a wilderness environment and need to protect yourselves and your livestock from dangerous wildlife or in an industrial environment to protect what's yours,  To not give them no purpose in a domestic suburban environment is just an accident waiting to happen, In general society. is there really a need for anyone to own such a dog, docile or not?. 

I think there's better dogs for a job ....these are just cartoon pit dogs, if I was fortunate enough to live in wilderness and wanted man biters I'd probably look for something I could live with day to day around kids

[paulus 26]

1 minute ago, Borr said:

I think there's better dogs for a job ....these are just cartoon pit dogs, if I was fortunate enough to live in wilderness and wanted man biters I'd probably look for something I could live with day to day around kids

Hence i said "Types of dogs" Lol

[Borr 5,742]

Just now, paulus said:

Hence i said "Types of dogs" Lol

Okay

[jeemes 4,445]

1 hour ago, paulus said:

Lets be honest these types of dogs are great if you live in a wilderness environment and need to protect yourselves and your livestock from dangerous wildlife or in an industrial environment to protect what's yours,  To not give them no purpose in a domestic suburban environment is just an accident waiting to happen, In general society. is there really a need for anyone to own such a dog, docile or not?. 

 We are all surrounded by accidents waiting to happen but we manage them or take the consequences. I think we have to be careful judging the needs of others. Is there really a need for civilians to own guns etc ? 

[paulus 26]

1 minute ago, jeemes said:

 We are all surrounded by accidents waiting to happen but we manage them or take the consequences. I think we have to be careful judging the needs of others. Is there really a need for civilians to own guns etc ? 

Guns are required to be locked in cabinet's when not being used. Would you leave a loaded gun laying around your home, especially if you have kids?

[DIDO.1 22,509]

This is the type of people your dealing with

[jukel123 7,957]

Just now, paulus said:

Guns are required to be locked in cabinet's when not being used. Would you leave a loaded gun laying around your home, especially if you have kids?

That's right. If an XL escapes from its pen and harms people  it's the same principle as leaving a gun cabinet unlocked for a burglar, an irresponsible family member or a child to get hold of. It's no use saying to the judge it "wasn't me that did the damage me lord". An owner of an XL, or any potentially aggressive dog is in the same position as a careless gun owner. Legally responsible at all times.

[jeemes 4,445]

16 minutes ago, paulus said:

Guns are required to be locked in cabinet's when not being used. Would you leave a loaded gun laying around your home, especially if you have kids?

Of course I wouldnt, lets not get into point scoring.  If I am irresponsible with a gun I can loose it, the right to keep another and get fined or locked up. What Im saying is lets be careful of simplistic judgements that removes the rights of minorites but actually cures nothing. Everyone shouldnt lose their gun because of me.

Edited September 16, 2023 by jeemes

[jukel123 7,957]

1 minute ago, DIDO.1 said:

This is the type of people your dealing with

Defective. 10 deaths in last two years.

Edited September 16, 2023 by jukel123

[paulus 26]

Just now, jeemes said:

Of course I wouldnt, lets not get into point scoring.  If I am irresponsible with a gun I can loose it, the right to keep another and get fined or locked up. What Im saying is lets be careful of simplistic judgements that removes the rights of minorites but actually cures nothing.

The right of a minority to own a dog that has the potential to be as lethal as a gun for no purpose other than status.  Sorry but i don't get it. 

[BGD 6,431]

14 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

That's right. If an XL escapes from its pen and harms people  it's the same principle as leaving a gun cabinet unlocked for a burglar, an irresponsible family member or a child to get hold of. It's no use saying to the judge it "wasn't me that did the damage me lord". An owner of an XL, or any potentially aggressive dog is in the same position as a careless gun owner. Legally responsible at all times.

The current law already holds owners liable if their dog injures or kills someone.