XL Bully Ban Incoming

[gnasher16 30,143]

32 minutes ago, BGD said:

Nothing quite like that look a real man eater gives you when they're fired up and decide it's you that's going to get it today, makes your blood run cold. I've been around big cats and wolves and other wild predators but the energy just doesn't come to close.

You say that but i was always happier around an out and out man biter than those unpredictable dogs who will let you run your hands over them one minute and try to take your arm off the next......you know where you stand with full on manny dogs and can take the measures needed but unpredictable dogs are the absolute worst as you're sucked into giving them a little trust if when they hit the end of their chain they dont growl at you for a few days in a row 

[paul sr 810]

19 hours ago, gnipper said:

Harsher penalties for having one that is out of control and behaves like a bellend would stop a fair few owning them I would imagine and probably slow down the breeding/sales of them.

Harsher penalties and take the money directly out of there wages or welfare . That would not only solve the problem of clowns with dogs but would solve a lot of issues in society . 

[paulus 26]

The problem/problems has already been alluded to on several posts,

1. People are breeding dogs for money rather than their abilities and traits, Dogs are being bred and sold into the pet market , That are totally unsuitable for that market.

2. No responsibility is being taken by the breeder or the owner when things go badly wrong. 

3. People acquiring dogs with no idea what they are capable of, Most owners would not be able to control a Jack Russel if it lost its shit never mind something the size of these things.

I once acquired a 3/8 5/8 bull cross bitch, She was a very powerful bitch, Excelled at what she was bred for, Quiet in the kennel and all that however i never did trust her, She just had that look and air about her that told me she was not right, My suspicion's were proved correct one day and that was her last day.

[BGD 6,436]

58 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

You say that but i was always happier around an out and out man biter than those unpredictable dogs who will let you run your hands over them one minute and try to take your arm off the next......you know where you stand with full on manny dogs and can take the measures needed but unpredictable dogs are the absolute worst as you're sucked into giving them a little trust if when they hit the end of their chain they dont growl at you for a few days in a row 

Oh definitely in terms of day to day handling the unpredictable ones are way more of a headache. I had this big black bitch years ago that would bounce about on her chain wagging her tail looking happy to see you but if you actually reached out to give her a pat it was 50/50 whether she'd turn into a Tasmanian devil the second your hand made contact with her or not, gave us some good laughs when unsuspecting lads would get lured in by her was like a switch would just go off and for the rest of the day she'd be going mental. Was generally fine once you were actually working with her but you had to watch yourself whenever you were around her spot

[low plains drifter 10,601]

2 hours ago, BGD said:

Nothing quite like that look a real man eater gives you when they're fired up and decide it's you that's going to get it today, makes your blood run cold. I've been around big cats and wolves and other wild predators but the energy just doesn't come to close.

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[downsouth 7,329]

Wouldn’t make any difference if you outright banned them and wiped them off the face of the earth.Unless you shot all the idiots that are producing these bags of shit along with the idiots that are buying it wont be long before next best look at me mutt is being produced with no thought or common sense behind it.

[ryaldinhio 4,612]

I am 100% in the camp of 'the issue is not the dog it's the owner'. I do agree that some dogs are more dangerous or more likely to be an issue but as illuded by a few already it's about the owner being responsible for the dogs actions and also understanding the requirement of whichever dog they get. 

We have a van at Bridlington and number of times see them little shitty chiuaua things on fronts that are swinging off lead going mad but it's cute/funny or he/she has an attitude. I always think if that was a Rotty behaving like that to people or other dogs they would be calling the firing squad.

Unfortunately this Bully thing is another argument for licencing dog ownership in its entirety which, as per gun licences, will only actually effect those more responsible.

For me that's only a matter of time before this is brought in and if it reduces the amount of wankers with dogs then personally I'm not against it.

[gnipper 6,484]

There was a lad lived near me breeding pits am bulls and boerboels and he didn't even know what I meant when I was on about breeding from proven stock. Dodgy temperament dogs in cages all round the house.

 Its not just bull breeds either,my mates daughter had a whippet that bit him a few times and he let it off until it bit her. Turns out the parents were similar.

[mC HULL 12,697]

1 hour ago, BGD said:

Oh definitely in terms of day to day handling the unpredictable ones are way more of a headache. I had this big black bitch years ago that would bounce about on her chain wagging her tail looking happy to see you but if you actually reached out to give her a pat it was 50/50 whether she'd turn into a Tasmanian devil the second your hand made contact with her or not, gave us some good laughs when unsuspecting lads would get lured in by her was like a switch would just go off and for the rest of the day she'd be going mental. Was generally fine once you were actually working with her but you had to watch yourself whenever you were around her spot

put some manners on them lol 

i couldn’t be around them horrible c**ts no matter how good they was 

[Rickshaw swami 4,123]

Any sumbitch with wild unruly children will have dogs that bite you as the man isn't the head of the household.  Quote Tri Valley 

Any critter who will eat his own shit and f**k his mama might do anything. Quote My father

Baptize them till they act like Christians should.Rickshaw swami 

 

[BGD 6,436]

3 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

put some manners on them lol 

i couldn’t be around them horrible c**ts no matter how good they was 

Honestly I'm sure you could put manners on some of the dogs like that if you tried but a lot of them really are just wired up wrong and it's just a case of either working around their issues or putting a bullet in them if you don't think it's worth the hassle no amount of training would make them truly safe to be around.

I wouldn't tolerate it any dog these days TBH but that's mostly because I'm too old and slow to deal with it now back then it was just considered to be part of keeping them really.

[mC HULL 12,697]

2 minutes ago, BGD said:

Honestly I'm sure you could put manners on some of the dogs like that if you tried but a lot of them really are just wired up wrong and it's just a case of either working around their issues or putting a bullet in them if you don't think it's worth the hassle no amount of training would make them truly safe to be around.

I wouldn't tolerate it any dog these days TBH but that's mostly because I'm too old and slow to deal with it now back then it was just considered to be part of keeping them really.

that’s it mate have to be on your guard all the time and take precautions there used for purpose and kept away from the public a good sensible owner can get away with it but daftys that have em it’s a matter a time 

[BGD 6,436]

4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

that’s it mate have to be on your guard all the time and take precautions there used for purpose and kept away from the public a good sensible owner can get away with it but daftys that have em it’s a matter a time 

Exactly that pal these dogs were kept on chains in secure yards and only ever around grown men who knew what they were about and exercised at night away from the public not running round off lead in a park full of kids and dog walkers!

[jukel123 8,188]

Check out Pets4homes, several  adult American bullies are going for £100. I daresay if you haggle they would willingly give them away them for nothing. Some advertisers offer no additional information. Some say they are dog aggressive. One numpty says he has tried everything " even training" but his bitch is still reactive. There are dozens of litters of pups open to anybody with the money.

You can't buy a gun without a licence,  which includes a doctors reference and a background check. It is also very difficult to get on to ground and shoot deer for example without producing  certificates proving you know what you are doing.

Before you can legally drive you have to pass  a test and have insurance. We accept these measures as reasonable and for the greater good.

Guns and cars are obviously lethal objects. Society needs to be protected from their irresponsible use.

Yet any kid or psychological defective can acquire a powerful AB XL capable of killing somebody with no checks, no insurance. 

CP is right, banning things isn't always the best thing to do. So why not introduce compulsory insurance, with insurance details contained on the dog's chip? No insurance and your dog is confiscated and your dog is impounded until you have bought an insurance document . We could have more dog wardens checking dogs in public places.

We should also have dogs muzzled in public and again there would be an outcry. But there was an outcry when  smoking in pubs was banned.  But now most think it was a brilliant, civilised  change which needed to be made.

When picking up dog shit first started I thought it weird but I am a total convert now.

The government  needs to make some ballsy decisions on this matter and stop sitting on its hands for fear of upsetting the nutty dog lobbyists. They won't of course and we will still be posting about the problem next  year and forever.

Edited September 11, 2023 by jukel123

[paulus 26]

18 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Check out Pets4homes, several  adult American bullies are going for £100. I daresay if you haggle they would willingly give them away them for nothing. Some advertisers offer no additional information. Some say they are dog aggressive. One numpty says he has tried everything " even training" but his bitch is still reactive. There are dozens of litters of pups open to anybody with the money.

You can't buy a gun without a licence,  which includes a doctors reference and a background check. It is also very difficult to get on to ground and shoot deer for example without producing  certificates proving you know what you are doing.

Before you can legally drive you have to pass  a test and have insurance. We accept these measures as reasonable and for the greater good.

Guns and cars are obviously lethal objects. Society needs to be protected from their irresponsible use.

Yet any kid or psychological defective can acquire a powerful AB XL capable of killing somebody with no checks, no insurance. 

CP is right, banning things isn't always the best thing to do. So why not introduce compulsory insurance, with insurance details contained on the dog's chip? No insurance and your dog is confiscated and your dog is impounded until you have bought an insurance document . We could have more dog wardens checking dogs in public places.

We should also have dogs muzzled in public and again there would be an outcry. But there was an outcry when  smoking in pubs was banned.  But now most think it was a brilliant, civilised  change which needed to be made.

When picking up dog shit first started I thought it weird but I am a total convert now.

The government  needs to make some ballsy decisions on this matter and stop sitting on its hands for fear of upsetting the nutty dog lobbyists. They won't of course and we will still be posting about the problem next  year and forever.

The crazy thing is before smoking in pubs was banned most pubs had a Smoke room. It was only the breweries in there search for more profit that forced landlords into the food trade and thus ending the smoke room.