Working whippets

[paulus 26]

20 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Pedigree whippet born 1991.

Supposed to be a working whippet, but I’ve no idea how good it was on hares;

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Black Lance x Gillscar Soft Whisper, United Kingdom 1991

 

Cheers.

 

Sooty Sam was bred by a Mr Croft-Slater, by his dog Black Lance (who had mainly Laguna behind him) out of a bitch Gillscar Softwhisper (Martinsell, Laguna with Shalfleet, Nimrodel and more Laguna behind that.

Originally the Laguna kennels were primarily a racing kennel. That aside coursing whippets and coursing greyhounds are two very different animals. Whippets as you know are very quick off the mark and are also quick to get a turn or two in in, But all that saps energy and long courses are a rarity, That said quite a few took the hare with that first few turns.

The stuff he was Bred from were Laguna lines.   Bond- Gunning and Colonel Walsh ran the coursing club, If i remember correctly.

[Chaff 3,621]

21 minutes ago, Daniel cain said:

Seen 2 dogs direct off him  and a grandson that Mike bred(belonged to same lad ) spin a few and do other bits and bobs...catch rabbits for fun,game little dogs...they all made  23 tts

They sound special ones DC what part of the country did they originate from DC

I know the type mate.

Get them home and butter wouldn't melt in their mouth lol

Did they run clever?

 

[paulus 26]

7 minutes ago, Chaff said:

They sound special ones DC what part of the country did they originate from DC

I know the type mate.

Get them home and butter wouldn't melt in their mouth lol

Did they run clever?

 

The bitch i had, had the kennel club name of "Fast Lady of Meliden" Clue in the name Lol

[Daniel cain 45,487]

These dogs belonged to a welsh lad ,young and keen ,run and lamped all along the M4 corridor...a favourite place from memory was Oxford way

[Chaff 3,621]

13 minutes ago, paulus said:

 

Sooty Sam was bred by a Mr Croft-Slater, by his dog Black Lance (who had mainly Laguna behind him) out of a bitch Gillscar Softwhisper (Martinsell, Laguna with Shalfleet, Nimrodel and more Laguna behind that.

Originally the Laguna kennels were primarily a racing kennel. That aside coursing whippets and coursing greyhounds are two very different animals. Whippets as you know are very quick off the mark and are also quick to get a turn or two in in, But all that saps energy and long courses are a rarity, That said quite a few took the hare with that first few turns.

The stuff he was Bred from were Laguna lines.   Bond- Gunning and Colonel Walsh ran the coursing club, If i remember correctly.

Your top man Paul thanks for that.

Did the coursing blood come from south west mate

[chartpolski 23,670]

16 minutes ago, paulus said:

 

Sooty Sam was bred by a Mr Croft-Slater, by his dog Black Lance (who had mainly Laguna behind him) out of a bitch Gillscar Softwhisper (Martinsell, Laguna with Shalfleet, Nimrodel and more Laguna behind that.

Originally the Laguna kennels were primarily a racing kennel. That aside coursing whippets and coursing greyhounds are two very different animals. Whippets as you know are very quick off the mark and are also quick to get a turn or two in in, But all that saps energy and long courses are a rarity, That said quite a few took the hare with that first few turns.

The stuff he was Bred from were Laguna lines.   Bond- Gunning and Colonel Walsh ran the coursing club, If i remember correctly.

Yeah, all that’s in his pedigree; mainly Laguna and Shalfleet.

I think  it was Walsh who wasn’t too keen on whippets coursing, and once said something along the lines “a whippet coursing meet is usually decided with a bye , a run up and a gone away” ! 
He thought rabbits were a whippets natural quarry, and were mismatched against hares.

Thats not to say whippets CAN’T take hares; they can, I’ve had a fair few with whippets myself.

Cheers.

[paulus 26]

11 minutes ago, Chaff said:

Your top man Paul thanks for that.

Did the coursing blood come from south west mate

Not that i know off,  the line is now based in the South West, Cornwall i think. The bitch i had was only ever really used as a ferreting dog,I had a Bedlington whippet greyhound that took the other stuff if i needed to.  although she did occasionally take other stuff, But back then i was ferreting 5 or more days a week, She was an exceptional ferreting dog, she is the only dog i have ever owned that would crown a ferret on a kill. i once watched her chase a rabbit into a deer fence and go through it sideways at full tilt. real heart in mouth stuff, But as i have said before, it took its toll on her and she ended up being retired with spinal problems.

 

[paulus 26]

3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Yeah, all that’s in his pedigree; mainly Laguna and Shalfleet.

I think  it was Walsh who wasn’t too keen on whippets coursing, and once said something along the lines “a whippet coursing meet is usually decided with a bye , a run up and a gone away” ! 
He thought rabbits were a whippets natural quarry, and were mismatched against hares.

Thats not to say whippets CAN’T take hares; they can, I’ve had a fair few with whippets myself.

Cheers.

I would totally agree with that mate. 

[Chaff 3,621]

I don't think they were ever going to be hare dogs, but seemed they were punching above their weight as far as ability goes if I'm getting it right .

[fred90 3,234]

15 minutes ago, paulus said:

The bitch i had, had the kennel club name of "Fast Lady of Meliden" Clue in the name Lol

Mike brown, said there was only 4 bitches that threw the good stuff Sam was put to, the dam to yours had 3 litters to him so I would say she was one of them. 

[paulus 26]

Just now, fred90 said:

Mike brown, said there was only 4 bitches that threw the good stuff Sam was put to, the dam to yours had 3 litters to him so I would say she was one of them. 

She was a grand little dog that did the job i wanted at that time and did it extremely well i must say. Its funny but after all these years and the dogs that have come and gone, If i was going to get another running dog, Then it would be another whippet. That's if i could find the breeding and working ability i was looking for, Funny old world Lol

[Chaff 3,621]

5 minutes ago, paulus said:

Not that i know off,  the line is now based in the South West, Cornwall i think. The bitch i had was only ever really used as a ferreting dog,I had a Bedlington whippet greyhound that took the other stuff if i needed to.  although she did occasionally take other stuff, But back then i was ferreting 5 or more days a week, She was an exceptional ferreting dog, she is the only dog i have ever owned that would crown a ferret on a kill. i once watched her chase a rabbit into a deer fence and go through it sideways at full tilt. real heart in mouth stuff, But as i have said before, it took its toll on her and she ended up being retired with spinal problems.

 

Hardest thing in the world to protect them from them selves when years of good breeding behind them.

Well I'm getting a pup from that neck of country and may well have that line of Laguna in her.

[fred90 3,234]

2 minutes ago, paulus said:

She was a grand little dog that did the job i wanted at that time and did it extremely well i must say. Its funny but after all these years and the dogs that have come and gone, If i was going to get another running dog, Then it would be another whippet. That's if i could find the breeding and working ability i was looking for, Funny old world Lol

I know what you mean, after all the years I now have my first whippet, only a small bitch but will have a go at anything, everything is at full speed, never stops hunting up, marks etc. suits me fine now I am a old fart. 

[paulus 26]

1 minute ago, fred90 said:

I know what you mean, after all the years I now have my first whippet, only a small bitch but will have a go at anything, everything is at full speed, never stops hunting up, marks etc. suits me fine now I am a old fart. 

You and me both Lol

[chartpolski 23,670]

I started with whippets, then had most types of running dogs and seen and worked a lot of different types around the world, but still suspect my last running dog may be a whippet, come the full circle !

Cheers.