wildman 488 Posted August 29, 2023 Report Share Posted August 29, 2023 Anyone ever use it , and if so what for ,now illegal of course Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 It was easily available in the 50s and 60s. From memory it was a pesticide. But unscrupulous gentlemen would use it as a way of catching salmon. When placed in a pool it deprived fish of oxygen and they would float to the surface. The flesh didn't seem to be affected because the carcases were sold to fishmongers. The trouble was it killed everything in a river. It was common to see large stretches of river with dead or dying fish. Better off banned. Especially these days when salmon are much scarcer. I did hear tell of miners who would nick explosives from work and use them as a way of stunning salmon in pools. Anybody got info on this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,661 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 hours ago, wildman said: Anyone ever use it , and if so what for ,now illegal of course I didn't use it as such but was very aware of it. My dad was a British rail pest controller so it was a big part of his job. As I went into gamekeeping when leaving school it was still around but most often seen as a rusty tin at the back of a shed. I knew enough by then to leave well alone. It was often brought out to destroy a litter of cubs but by then I was enjoying hunting, so rather than being ok with killing a whole litter for the benifit of shooting I'd rather call a mate with terriers if cubs had to go. I used phostoxoin alot, sometimes for rabbits, alot for moles. Cymag, like strychnine is better off consigned to history. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wildman 488 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 We used to use it for wasp hives ,go back in an hour dig it out sell em to fishermen ,very effective stuff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,661 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, wildman said: We used to use it for wasp hives ,go back in an hour dig it out sell em to fishermen ,very effective stuff Wasp nests. A small spoonful at the entrance hole . I wouldn't think that there's a fisherman around these days who uses wasp grubs. Same with blood worm. Collecting, selling and using those sorts of baits were as big a part of fishing as the actual fishing. Just like baking bread to make ground bait. Today's fishermen miss out on so much with their muddy puddles full of generic carp....they don't realise what they have lost 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,542 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Remember finding some empty tins of it in the mouth of a rabbit warren on the Wentworth estate years ago i think the keepers used to gas them more to piss poachers off more than pest control as lads who poached that estate longnetting and lamping did more to control the rabbit population than the keeper's did gassing a few warren's. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,542 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, jukel123 said: It was easily available in the 50s and 60s. From memory it was a pesticide. But unscrupulous gentlemen would use it as a way of catching salmon. When placed in a pool it deprived fish of oxygen and they would float to the surface. The flesh didn't seem to be affected because the carcases were sold to fishmongers. The trouble was it killed everything in a river. It was common to see large stretches of river with dead or dying fish. Better off banned. Especially these days when salmon are much scarcer. I did hear tell of miners who would nick explosives from work and use them as a way of stunning salmon in pools. Anybody got info on this? As far as dynamite goes mate the pit I worked at it was pretty strict and only officials carried the depts to ignite it. We used dynabol on the tail gate rip I worked on and we used to carry it down the pit in round bucket like carrier's with locks on the top with ten pills in each side I remember one busting open I was carrying on the cage and the dynabol falling out and only nine pills could be found they shut the shaft down to check the sump and I was searched they never found the pill and it was put down to the lad in the powder mag only putting nine pills in and not locking the top properly though lad's who I worked with who knew I was a poacher were convinced I had had it away. Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
byron 1,169 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Yep..used to find old tins like tatb lister said..ya needed a long spoon to get it down..was used on other stuff..!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogmandont 9,805 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, jukel123 said: It was easily available in the 50s and 60s. From memory it was a pesticide. But unscrupulous gentlemen would use it as a way of catching salmon. When placed in a pool it deprived fish of oxygen and they would float to the surface. The flesh didn't seem to be affected because the carcases were sold to fishmongers. The trouble was it killed everything in a river. It was common to see large stretches of river with dead or dying fish. Better off banned. Especially these days when salmon are much scarcer. I did hear tell of miners who would nick explosives from work and use them as a way of stunning salmon in pools. Anybody got info on this? Don't know about the salmon but my grandfather used to steal the explosives from a quarry him and his father worked at for the old IRA, this was in the 1920s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, dogmandont said: Don't know about the salmon but my grandfather used to steal the explosives from a quarry him and his father worked at for the old IRA, this was in the 1920s. That .could have been curtains for him if he was found out. And you would never have been born 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,717 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: As far as dynamite goes mate the pit I worked at it was pretty strict and only officials carried the depts to ignite it. We used dynabol on the tail gate rip I worked on and we used to carry it down the pit in round bucket like carrier's with locks on the top with ten pills in each side I remember one busting open I was carrying on the cage and the dynabol falling out and only nine pills could be found they shut the shaft down to check the sump and I was searched they never found the pill and it was put down to the lad in the powder mag only putting nine pills in and not locking the top properly though lad's who I worked with who knew I was a poacher were convinced I had had it away. Lol When we carrried powder ( explosives ) we either got extra pay or an early finish, if you used your head you could wrangle both, it was easy to nick because we always charged our own holes, dets were always more difficult to nick 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,542 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bakerboy said: When we carrried powder ( explosives ) we either got extra pay or an early finish, if you used your head you could wrangle both, it was easy to nick because we always charged our own holes, dets were always more difficult to nick Yes mate we got both though it was only penny's for carrying it down though it was worth it for the early ride up the shaft avoiding the mad rush especially on the day shift. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wildman 488 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 hours ago, tatsblisters said: Remember finding some empty tins of it in the mouth of a rabbit warren on the Wentworth estate years ago i think the keepers used to gas them more to piss poachers off more than pest control as lads who poached that estate longnetting and lamping did more to control the rabbit population than the keeper's did gassing a few warren's. Ya used to poach Wentworth myself once got caught red handed spent the morning in Rawmarsh nick,and got a good telling of by the Sargent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,157 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 hours ago, jukel123 said: It was easily available in the 50s and 60s. From memory it was a pesticide. But unscrupulous gentlemen would use it as a way of catching salmon. When placed in a pool it deprived fish of oxygen and they would float to the surface. The flesh didn't seem to be affected because the carcases were sold to fishmongers. The trouble was it killed everything in a river. It was common to see large stretches of river with dead or dying fish. Better off banned. Especially these days when salmon are much scarcer. I did hear tell of miners who would nick explosives from work and use them as a way of stunning salmon in pools. Anybody got info on this? No need to go to all that trouble...clove oil sends them to sleep,they come back around and the river still thrives ....or if your a cnut....a bag of lime... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 7,957 Posted August 30, 2023 Report Share Posted August 30, 2023 Didn't know the clove oil method. Lime is lethal. Sprinkle some on grass and worms appear on the surface as if by magic. Useful for fishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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