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I got detention at school once so I do have some experience of these things 

I've been thinking about this one all weekend,  and I just can't wrap my head around it. It's one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen. Is she mad or is she bad ? . Her actions are pure e

I dont think any normal person can understand it

1 minute ago, gnasher16 said:

In terms of bullying/violence from everyone ive ever spoken to Holloway Prison in North London was as bad if not worse than most mens prisons......probably why they've just pulled it down !!

I’ve never been to prison and certainly never a women’s, but that lass has been in every one in the north of England and she said anyone doing a long stretch soon settles in and kid killers don’t get treated like men do, I can only take her word for this because I have no experience of it, and I wouldn’t argue with her because she’d batter me ( lol )

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7 minutes ago, Stavross said:

I’ve never been to prison and certainly never a women’s, but that lass has been in every one in the north of England and she said anyone doing a long stretch soon settles in and kid killers don’t get treated like men do, I can only take her word for this because I have no experience of it, and I wouldn’t argue with her because she’d batter me ( lol )

Id say thats more than likely utter bullshit a woman trying to cushion the blow of her own evil possibly......criminals or not women have a natural maternal instinct that men dont have....everybody despises crimes against a child but women feel it more.....every bird ive ever spoken to thats been behind the door says womens nicks are no picnic and i can quite believe that.

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8 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Id say thats more than likely utter bullshit a woman trying to cushion the blow of her own evil possibly......criminals or not women have a natural maternal instinct that men dont have....everybody despises crimes against a child but women feel it more.....every bird ive ever spoken to thats been behind the door says womens nicks are no picnic and i can quite believe that.

Like i said, i can only go of what she told me, she the only woman i know who’s been in jail and she says it’s an easy life, but i suppose if it’s all you know then you make it what you want it to be 

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4 minutes ago, Stavross said:

Like i said, i can only go of what she told me, she the only woman i know who’s been in jail and she says it’s an easy life, but i suppose if it’s all you know then you make it what you want it to be 

Fair enough.....misunderstanding there i wasnt calling your friend evil by the way i thought you was referring to the baby killer.

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I've been thinking about this one all weekend,  and I just can't wrap my head around it. It's one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

Is she mad or is she bad ? . Her actions are pure evil of the very worst kind imaginable. 

It's impossible to put those evil actions with that innocent looking young woman we've all seen on the TV , the two things just don't fit together .

I think my brain just can't accept that anyone could do such evil things , to innocent little babies.

I could cry just thinking about it.

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6 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Fair enough.....misunderstanding there i wasnt calling your friend evil by the way i thought you was referring to the baby killer.

She wants padding up with the likes of that lass I know or the Joanna dennehy someone who will proper open her up, I might be wrong but I think she only the 4th woman to be given a whole life term

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No doubt there will be another  toothless inquiry as there was when GP Shipman killed hundreds and nurse Beverely Allit killed  patient children.

How about CCTV and body cameras as standard for staff working with vulnerable patients? How about making hospital bosses legally responsible for patient safety and  ward matrons legally responsible for the safety of all patients on their shift?  Maybe two nurses  should be present at all times when vulnerable children are being treated, so the likes of Letby couldn't act alone.

Hospital bosses were slow to act and made doctors who blew the whistle on Letby apologise to her ffs. They should be charged with manslaughter.

It's best not to trust anybody. Especially people in uniform. Official uniforms act as camouflage and can make people power freaks.

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3 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Id say thats more than likely utter bullshit a woman trying to cushion the blow of her own evil possibly......criminals or not women have a natural maternal instinct that men dont have....everybody despises crimes against a child but women feel it more.....every bird ive ever spoken to thats been behind the door says womens nicks are no picnic and i can quite believe that.

Hindley settled down in jail didn't she, there's been a few other high profile ones as well 

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My granddaughter was born in Liverpool women's hospital in 2012 she was premature and was in there for a couple of months came home in the June ,then I read that Letby started working there in the October of that year ,still getting the shakes thinking about it .

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4 minutes ago, Astanley said:

My granddaughter was born in Liverpool women's hospital in 2012 she was premature and was in there for a couple of months came home in the June ,then I read that Letby started working there in the October of that year ,still getting the shakes thinking about it .

i can see why you was shocked dont bear thinking about

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34 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

Hindley settled down in jail didn't she, there's been a few other high profile ones as well 

A old friend of mine was in a cell next door to Hindley for a year and she went about her day just the same as every other prisoner in there did ,but i also know a lass or two who have been inside Holloway and they've all said how spiteful and rotten it was in there..

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1 hour ago, Astanley said:

My granddaughter was born in Liverpool women's hospital in 2012 she was premature and was in there for a couple of months came home in the June ,then I read that Letby started working there in the October of that year ,still getting the shakes thinking about it .

We had our both our daughters at countess first 1 she was looking after missus and baby for a few hour after cesarean....had second daughter there in 2019 and we asked midwives on day unit if they thought she'd done it and they were all saying no chance......she had them well fooled 

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