Big cats UK

[Goly 1,815]

4 minutes ago, mel b said:

I really couldn't tell you what it was goly . If I could tell you , I would . All I can say is that it was that typical panther shape , it was a dark colour ( but didnt look black), and it was muntjac deer size , and not domestic cat size , and  It's on a trail cam , at night , with ir . It walks past the camera at probably 20 feet ish away , freezes for a couple of seconds and looks at the camera ( im guessing the camera made a sound), then just wanders off , in no particular hurry . I've seen plenty of , fallow , red , and muntie , footage , from the same cam , that's been in position for years.

I can't really say any more than that , other than , I've known the fella for a lot of years , and even if I hadnt seen the footage with my own eyes , I would have still believed him.

 

Definitely wasn't a big cat, perhaps one of these exotic pets, something like a Maine Coon. We will have to ask the resident expert, but if Muntjac size we can write off Leopard, Puma, or any other big cat. 

[mel b 2,816]

9 minutes ago, Goly said:

Definitely wasn't a big cat, perhaps one of these exotic pets, something like a Maine Coon. We will have to ask the resident expert, but if Muntjac size we can write off Leopard, Puma, or any other big cat. 

OK   .

[Goly 1,815]

9 minutes ago, mel b said:

OK   .

You sound disappointed? Leopards & Pumas are considerably bigger than Muntjacs.

If you say it was Panther shaped then you can discount Lynx as they have a short tail and have disproportionately long front legs, not at all Panther like.

Edited Monday at 13:29 by Goly

[Greyman 29,287]

An average munti is 52 cm at the shoulder a female leopard around 57 and a puma around 60 so all very easily mixed up muntjac are the most common animal mistaken for a cat you absolute walloper and here is an example now go and clear some leafs off the tracks something you can actually achieve 

[Goly 1,815]

4 minutes ago, Greyman said:

An average munti is 52 cm at the shoulder a female leopard around 57 and a puma around 60 so all very easily mixed up muntjac are the most common animal mistaken for a cat you absolute walloper and here is an example now go and clear some leafs off the tracks something you can actually achieve 

So now that is a leopard is it you walloper?

[Greyman 29,287]

Just now, Goly said:

So now that is a leopard is it you walloper?

Easy to see how your getting confused now your kids must be so proud lol

[Goly 1,815]

6 minutes ago, Greyman said:

An average munti is 52 cm at the shoulder a female leopard around 57 and a puma around 60 so all very easily mixed up muntjac are the most common animal mistaken for a cat you absolute walloper and here is an example now go and clear some leafs off the tracks something you can actually achieve 

And lying again, it says up to 52cm, that doesn't mean on average you full blown fraudster, that means their upper limits.

[Goly 1,815]

1 minute ago, Greyman said:

Easy to see how your getting confused now your kids must be so proud lol

I'm not confused because I know it's not a leopard so what does that picture prove, diddly squat, why have you shared it? Lol

[Goly 1,815]

So what you've done you have quoted the maximum size of the muntjac buck and the minimum sizes for female leopards and pumas and the latter are still considerably bigger given that the smallest female leopards are bigger than the biggest bucks in weight and length.

[Leo Sayer 2,908]

16 minutes ago, Greyman said:

An average munti is 52 cm at the shoulder a female leopard around 57 and a puma around 60 so all very easily mixed up muntjac are the most common animal mistaken for a cat you absolute walloper and here is an example now go and clear some leafs off the tracks something you can actually achieve 

What areas down by you hold the biggest percentage of munties ? I believe some parts are over run ? 

[Goly 1,815]

I'm running rings around you here Greyman, we can discount the smallest of Leopards which is the Arabian Leopard because according to you there's no spotted Leopards over here, only melanistic Leopards which come from forest regions whereas the Arabian subspecies is found in the uplands of the Arabian peninsula. It must be a Puma then, well no, the smallest of Pumas are found near to the equator, the regions where collectors got their animals from was from North America where they grow much  much larger than their equatorial cousins and way bigger than the biggest of Muntjac. 

[Goly 1,815]

Stick with me mate, you'll know a Siberian Tiger from a Siamese by the time I've done teaching you .

[Greyman 29,287]

16 minutes ago, Leo Sayer said:

What areas down by you hold the biggest percentage of munties ? I believe some parts are over run ? 

They are everywhere down here mate very discreet animals but go out at night and shine a light or flick the thermal on and they are everywhere don’t seem to have much road sense as I find lots dead and don’t seem to give off a scent like roe, my old lurcher hates roe with a vengeance and can sniff them out in thick cover yet I was out in the valleys last week and watched a munti  disappear into the hedge just before the dog came round the corner he walked straight passed were it had disappeared without a second look they have travelled down the m5 corridor and are now established right up to avonmouth the river Avon seems to have slowed down the southward spread if you have none at the moment they will be with you soon enough 

[Greyman 29,287]

35 minutes ago, Goly said:

I'm not confused because I know it's not a leopard so what does that picture prove, diddly squat, why have you shared it? Lol

This is hilarious you couldn’t look more stupid without sticking a selfie up you moron the picture was never claimed to be a leopard it is an example of how a trail cam pic can be confusing and none conclusive now would you care to expertly identify what creature is in the picture you can google or look at your observers book if it helps you 

[Goly 1,815]

1 minute ago, Greyman said:

This is hilarious you couldn’t look more stupid without sticking a selfie up you moron the picture was never claimed to be a leopard it is an example of how a trail cam pic can be confusing and none conclusive now would you care to expertly identify what creature is in the picture you can google or look at your observers book if it helps you 

How is it confusing, it's clear to see that it's not a leopard, the only man that is easily confused is you.