THE STIFFMEISTER 15,740 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 So ……… Grey man and I have had a few debates over the years . I’ve always been of the opinion id like to believe but I’d have to see some serious evidence in the form of a photograph etc . however ….. las month I have reconnected with a life long mate from back home . He’s one of the few people in my life who I would take his word unequivocally. He’s a generational sheep farmer . We both know an older guy who swears down seen one in the borders and again he’s hard to deny as he’s the first to laugh at stuff like this . as we discussed our lives and our jobs in the last 7 years we’ve been in absentia . He casually name dropped a mutual friend of ours , a younger guy , again a generational sheep farmer who three to four times a year he looses perfectly healthy tups, killed and stripped of every bit of flesh....he used to do a bit with dogs / keepering so he knows it’s not the usual badger / fox scenario . we all agreed it wasn't your normal...a big fit tup can be 130kg+ they just don't die and be stripped in a matter of a few hours nothing in the uk , not a dog can do that . 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 29 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: So ……… Grey man and I have had a few debates over the years . I’ve always been of the opinion id like to believe but I’d have to see some serious evidence in the form of a photograph etc . however ….. las month I have reconnected with a life long mate from back home . He’s one of the few people in my life who I would take his word unequivocally. He’s a generational sheep farmer . We both know an older guy who swears down seen one in the borders and again he’s hard to deny as he’s the first to laugh at stuff like this . as we discussed our lives and our jobs in the last 7 years we’ve been in absentia . He casually name dropped a mutual friend of ours , a younger guy , again a generational sheep farmer who three to four times a year he looses perfectly healthy tups, killed and stripped of every bit of flesh....he used to do a bit with dogs / keepering so he knows it’s not the usual badger / fox scenario . we all agreed it wasn't your normal...a big fit tup can be 130kg+ they just don't die and be stripped in a matter of a few hours nothing in the uk , not a dog can do that . My code name was “The Panther” ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,136 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, WILF said: My code name was “The Panther” ! pink? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,678 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 7 minutes ago, Daniel cain said: pink? Crimson ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 56 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: So ……… Grey man and I have had a few debates over the years . I’ve always been of the opinion id like to believe but I’d have to see some serious evidence in the form of a photograph etc . however ….. las month I have reconnected with a life long mate from back home . He’s one of the few people in my life who I would take his word unequivocally. He’s a generational sheep farmer . We both know an older guy who swears down seen one in the borders and again he’s hard to deny as he’s the first to laugh at stuff like this . as we discussed our lives and our jobs in the last 7 years we’ve been in absentia . He casually name dropped a mutual friend of ours , a younger guy , again a generational sheep farmer who three to four times a year he looses perfectly healthy tups, killed and stripped of every bit of flesh....he used to do a bit with dogs / keepering so he knows it’s not the usual badger / fox scenario . we all agreed it wasn't your normal...a big fit tup can be 130kg+ they just don't die and be stripped in a matter of a few hours nothing in the uk , not a dog can do that . No disrespect mate but a leopard doesn't come close to consuming that much amount of meat in a few hours, not even a tiger would. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,217 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, big feet said: No disrespect mate but a leopard doesn't come close to consuming that much amount of meat in a few hours, not even a tiger would. Indicating more than one cat at a sitting hence breeding these farmers have seen every kind of predation and are. No fools they no what’s happening the routine visits is a sign they are part of a territory, it’s all there mate you just need to learn to join the dots and look beyond google 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,136 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 5 minutes ago, big feet said: No disrespect mate but a leopard doesn't come close to consuming that much amount of meat in a few hours, not even a tiger would. How many foxes or badgers would it take to strip 100 kg of meat and organs from one then mate? Genuine question...old Billy generally only takes dead lambs,sheep caught up in fencing that are dead or carrion....foxes will take lambs,pull them from the mothers when birthing even ...but I can't imagine foxes or badgers stripping one in a few hrs.... would take 20 of the fuckers each,a couple of days at least wouldn't you say like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 2 minutes ago, Greyman said: Indicating more than one cat at a sitting hence breeding these farmers have seen every kind of predation and are. No fools they no what’s happening the routine visits is a sign they are part of a territory, it’s all there mate you just need to learn to join the dots and look beyond google Mate, 5 leopards wouldn't consume close to that. Leoaprds average about 4-5kg of food per day, read the studies mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 1 minute ago, Daniel cain said: How many foxes or badgers would it take to strip 100 kg of meat and organs from one then mate? Genuine question...old Billy generally only takes dead lambs,sheep caught up in fencing that are dead or carrion....foxes will take lambs,pull them from the mothers when birthing even ...but I can't imagine foxes or badgers stripping one in a few hrs.... would take 20 of the fuckers each,a couple of days at least wouldn't you say like? I've no idea mate but it's easy to find field studies on leoaprds, tigers, leopards, etc. Even a tiger will do well to eat 30kg in one day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,740 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 13 minutes ago, big feet said: No disrespect mate but a leopard doesn't come close to consuming that much amount of meat in a few hours, not even a tiger would. Agreed but let’s have it right . A big Lakeland texel tup would butt a fox and badger all over A manky old 20lb fox is doing nix to a fit beast like that 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Daniel cain 45,136 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 Just now, big feet said: I've no idea mate but it's easy to find field studies on leoaprds, tigers, leopards, etc. Even a tiger will do well to eat 30kg in one day. I always believed from what I've seen/read over the years that the smaller of the big cats,would consume as much as they could,as fast as they could, because they get bullied of it? Hence why the leave it up a tree or like bury it? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 Just now, Daniel cain said: I always believed from what I've seen/read over the years that the smaller of the big cats,would consume as much as they could,as fast as they could, because they get bullied of it? Hence why the leave it up a tree or like bury it? Yes, they may, but they still won't come close to eating that much. The leopard averages about the same as a large dog mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,217 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 4 minutes ago, big feet said: Mate, 5 leopards wouldn't consume close to that. Leoaprds average about 4-5kg of food per day, read the studies mate. Mate remove the weight of the skeleton stomach and fleece and leave Wikipedia alone it’s happening stop fighting it and just go with it you’ll feel better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big feet 324 Posted September 9 Report Share Posted September 9 3 minutes ago, Greyman said: Mate remove the weight of the skeleton stomach and fleece and leave Wikipedia alone it’s happening stop fighting it and just go with it you’ll feel better Mate, I have books and can find actual field studies on the web. May i ask where you get your info? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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