forest of dean redneck 11,536 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 I’m getting my hybrids mixed up I just googled and yes the kellas is hybrid between domestic and wildcat but when I said kellas I meant the strange looking hybrids that appeared in Scotland in the 80s they was called rabbit headed cats . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,703 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 1 hour ago, forest of dean redneck said: I’m getting my hybrids mixed up I just googled and yes the kellas is hybrid between domestic and wildcat but when I said kellas I meant the strange looking hybrids that appeared in Scotland in the 80s they was called rabbit headed cats . This? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 10,703 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 (edited) Kin el, don't ask me what the f**k happened there!!! Not the best with all this 'sharing links' etc, as you can obviously tell!! Edited May 29 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bakerboy 4,661 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Big cat roaming UK countryside is confirmed but panther ruled out UK.NEWS.YAHOO.COM Experts have confirmed that a big cat roaming the UK countryside is real following DNA tests on a dead... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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forest of dean redneck 11,536 Posted May 29 Report Share Posted May 29 Dufftown "Rabbit Headed" Cat - Oriental Cat Comparison In 1988 a gamekeeper at Dufftown, North East Scotland, trapped a large black cat in a fox trap. It had a slim muscular body, long legs and a long whip like tail – all typical of a black Oriental domestic cat. Di Francis suggested that in profile, its head looked rabbit-like with a small brain-case and long Roman nose. She convinced herself – and others unfamiliar with domestic breeds -that it was a primitive unknown cat species. In fact, all extant pictures of the Dufftown cat show a triangular face, large ears and long nose. It was apparently extremely ferocious and the gamekeeper had to shoot it from a distance. In 1993 a similar cat was seen swimming after wildfowl near East Kilbride. The gamekeeper set his two dogs to scare the cat away. He claimed that the cat attacked the dogs so ferociously that he had to shoot the cat to protect his dogs from the assault. Francis referred to this cat as the second rabbit headed cat. Another such cat had apparently been killed by a gamekeeper on the Revack Estate and much earlier, in 1938 near Elgin, a gamekeeper attempted - and failed - to tame a feral kitten which photos showed to be a “rabbit headed “cat. Although Francis suggests that these are an undiscovered primitive species, it is more than likely that they are hybrids between Scottish Wildcats and Siamese-type domestics. Between 1873 and 1904, the Scottish Wildcat was experimentally crossed with various domestic breeds, including the Siamese, and some of these hybrids were exhibited at early British cat shows. Because they inherited the untameable ("queer-tempered") temperament, domestic x wildcat hybrids often returned to the wild. In an area with few native Scottish Wildcats and a greater number of hybrid cats of Oriental breed type, the Oriental type could come to predominate. She pointed to the Roman nose, large ears and narrow muzzle as indicating a new species, but all of these traits indicate the wedge-shaped head of a Siamese/oriental cat". Seal-point Siamese cats are genetically black and is a comparable case of Siamese/Wildcat hybridisation at Halle Zoo: a male Steppe cat (F libyca caudata) and black longhaired female domestic cat produced 3 wild-tempered shorthaired offspring. One of those kittens was mated to a male Siamese, producing black offspring (H Petzch, 1958, 1959). Inbreeding among hybrid wildcats with Sealpoint Siamese ancestry would easily produce the type of cats found at Dufftown and Elgin. Such hybridisation may have occurred at a time when gamekeepers routinely shot Wildcats so that surviving Wildcats bred with any domestic cat available. Feral cats and Wildcats are ferocious when trapped, but reports of them being shot purely because of their ferocity endangering man or dog are probably an excuse since gamekeepers generally shoot feral or domestic cats on sight. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notahunter 35 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 The Missing Lynx Exhibition | The Missing Lynx Project WWW.MISSINGLYNXPROJECT.ORG.UK The Missing Lynx Exhibition will tour local venues, introducing people to the Eurasian lynx. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,628 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 minutes ago, notahunter said: The Missing Lynx Exhibition | The Missing Lynx Project WWW.MISSINGLYNXPROJECT.ORG.UK The Missing Lynx Exhibition will tour local venues, introducing people to the Eurasian lynx. Even tho I'm not really for the idea of reintroducing lynx to the UK It would probably be a interesting event Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,536 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 2 hours ago, Welsh_red said: Even tho I'm not really for the idea of reintroducing lynx to the UK It would probably be a interesting event I think if they are going to introduce a carnivore then the lynx is the best suited yes some livestock will go missing , but it is pretty secretive and I think sticks to a territory ? I don’t know how many young they have a year but these people that say about wolves being introduced they have large litters and travel huge distances and would go through livestock more than a lynx . And I really can’t imagine bears being reintroduced so the lynx is the best option to control deer ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,559 Posted May 30 Author Report Share Posted May 30 Imagine a bear but certain breeds of dog are banned haha 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,163 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 3 hours ago, Welsh_red said: Even tho I'm not really for the idea of reintroducing lynx to the UK It would probably be a interesting event I have contacted the lynx project and asked them what there procedure would be when one of there tracked lynx has a litter with a native British one but they won’t engage me in conversation lol there has to be a full insurance scheme in place for all this cat stuff so farmers can get compensated when they loose stock or they will never agree to it and some people like the nfu have quite a big shout 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,628 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, forest of dean redneck said: I think if they are going to introduce a carnivore then the lynx is the best suited yes some livestock will go missing , but it is pretty secretive and I think sticks to a territory ? I don’t know how many young they have a year but these people that say about wolves being introduced they have large litters and travel huge distances and would go through livestock more than a lynx . And I really can’t imagine bears being reintroduced so the lynx is the best option to control deer ? I don't know how much of a dent it would actually make on deer in the long run 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Councilestatekid 1,831 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 Wasn't they goin to introduce lynx to the lakes or thought they had introduced 6 of some kind of cat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,536 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 6 minutes ago, Councilestatekid said: Wasn't they goin to introduce lynx to the lakes or thought they had introduced 6 of some kind of cat Dunno would have to get list of people with dwa in that area . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
notahunter 35 Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 4 hours ago, Councilestatekid said: Wasn't they goin to introduce lynx to the lakes or thought they had introduced 6 of some kind of cat Lynx return ruled out in Cumbria and Norfolk WWW.BBC.CO.UK Plans to reintroduce the lynx to the Cumbrian and Norfolk countryside are scrapped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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