Big cats UK

[Bush Rummager 4,694]

2 hours ago, Greyman said:

Tell your sister to watch hold the front page series two episode two the dna was found  at the time I did the program mate,or have a listen to this we sat on it until after the show was aired as it was going to be an exclusive for the Westmorland gazette, not sure how that panned out as I’ve not seen it yet or listened to the podcast  but you should get the location it was a bit of a shame as I had a limited area in which to work in but just outside of that area I found three sheep kills in a very tight area that couldn’t be used in the program, 

 

Almost managed to keep your head down grab but thanks for your opinion wish you were a cat I’d catch you every week lol

Thank you mate! Yes, I remember you going up there now.

[greg64 2,842]

13 hours ago, Greyman said:

I know Sharon and can assure you she is the real deal she has also captured some good pictures there is nothing fake about her she lives in a very active area and is known and trusted by a lot of farmers and land owners sadly she doesn’t do trail cams though we have recently sent her some to put out she puts in a lot of effort and has had success on the back of it  p.s that is now the fifth set of positive dna we have gat from the uk we are getting there slowly but to some it will never be true because they haven’t seen it themselves but they are not willing to put in the miles to find out for themselves 

i just find it strange that she was out videoing on her walk took photos of the dead sheep walked back to her car put the camera down then turned around and saw a leopard

[shaaark 10,832]

3 hours ago, Greyman said:

2024 still using a £15 Nokia here lol

Seen your phone in some of the pics you put up, G.

My father in law still has the exact same one.

[TOMO 26,240]

2 hours ago, hot dog said:

There has been rumours of big cats in GB my whole life but not 1 photo or video.

Why's that when they can film a endangered snow leopard during a spectacular hunt in the himalayas.

Yes I know I get it...I'm very sceptical myself.....my reply was based on your assumption that cos its 2009 he must have a got a photo...

Like I say I've been sceptical on the subject all my life....but my stance is not quite as hard line as it was.....I think there's lots to be said for anecdotal evidence....and whilst I'm not a personal friend of Greyman I have no reason to disbelieve any of his evidence or stuff he tells us...he's one of us and seems a genuin type of chap

[shaaark 10,832]

1 minute ago, TOMO said:

my reply was based on your assumption that cos its 2009 he must have a got a photo...

A lot of people assume the same sort of thing, tomo.  And just because mobile phones with built in camera have been available for a couple of decades, EVERYONE must have one AND take it with them EVERYWHERE they go!

I often leave my phone at home, gives me some extra peace and quiet, plus the fact, probably like most people in the country, when I go for a walk, I don't EXPECT to see a non native big cat to take a picture of!!  Lol.

1 minute ago, TOMO said:

I think there's lots to be said for anecdotal evidence.

OoOOOoooh!!  lol

 

[hot dog 133]

1 hour ago, TOMO said:

Yes I know I get it...I'm very sceptical myself.....my reply was based on your assumption that cos its 2009 he must have a got a photo...

Like I say I've been sceptical on the subject all my life....but my stance is not quite as hard line as it was.....I think there's lots to be said for anecdotal evidence....and whilst I'm not a personal friend of Greyman I have no reason to disbelieve any of his evidence or stuff he tells us...he's one of us and seems a genuin type of chap

Maybe not then in 09 but the past 5 years with phones,drones,thermal,camera traps and night vision I would think it would be easy to prove.i think if it was real the media would be all over a story like this.

I have no reason to discredit greyman but let's just see some proof.

[Bush Rummager 4,694]

I don't think it's a natural primative reaction to whip your phone out if you where to have an unexpected big cat encounter in our countryside today. More likely your arse would fall out. I was out on a walk in the rain yesterday evening and spotted a hare sat layed tight not 10 feet from me. By the time I'd fumbled getting my phone out with wet hands.. turned my camera back around facing the right way, the hare had got up.. put the middle finger upto me and skedaddled off into the woods!  B@stard!! Lol..

 

[Welsh_red 4,651]

14 minutes ago, Bush Rummager said:

I don't think it's a natural primative reaction to whip your phone out if you where to have an unexpected big cat encounter in our countryside today. More likely your arse would fall out. I was out on a walk in the rain yesterday evening and spotted a hare sat layed tight not 10 feet from me. By the time I'd fumbled getting my phone out with wet hands.. turned my camera back around facing the right way, the hare had got up.. put the middle finger upto me and skedaddled off into the woods!  B@stard!! Lol..

 

My phone does that selfie thing for some reason aswell 

[hot dog 133]

22 minutes ago, Bush Rummager said:

I don't think it's a natural primative reaction to whip your phone out if you where to have an unexpected big cat encounter in our countryside today. More likely your arse would fall out. I was out on a walk in the rain yesterday evening and spotted a hare sat layed tight not 10 feet from me. By the time I'd fumbled getting my phone out with wet hands.. turned my camera back around facing the right way, the hare had got up.. put the middle finger upto me and skedaddled off into the woods!  B@stard!! Lol..

 

According to the eye witness simoman he watched it for 10 minutes,thats a long time then followed it and threw mud at it within 50 meters.

I think it more that greyman is a good bloke,your all his mates and you feel like i'm attacking him by questioning big cats.

[Bush Rummager 4,694]

43 minutes ago, hot dog said:

According to the eye witness simoman he watched it for 10 minutes,thats a long time then followed it and threw mud at it within 50 meters.

I think it more that greyman is a good bloke,your all his mates and you feel like i'm attacking him by questioning big cats.

I've got absolutely no excuses for people not getting 'that' pic other than what mentioned. I'd certainly like to as it would be a nice little earner from the media I'm sure.. and who'd turn down a nice little easy wedge for the sake of taking a pic! 

I get on with everyone mate on here I'd like to like so and yes, Greyman is a sound bloke but like TOMO says I don't know him personally and we've never swapped pm's or anything. I'm straight down the middle mate and say things how see it and take people as I find them!

[Bush Rummager 4,694]

1 hour ago, Welsh_red said:

My phone does that selfie thing for some reason aswell 

Does your nut in eh!! Lol..

[Arry 21,973]

Trouble with phone cameras is the are crap at range and if you use digital zoom the definition goes. Took pictures yesterday of a cub with a phone but I I managed to creep up to about 20 feet away if it was the other side of the field you would not be able to tell what it was. The other thing imo is few people take a camera with them now because of the camera in the phones they carry. 

As for filming Snow Leopards they know roughy where they are and a lot of money and high tech equipment is used in getting that film footage.

The UK is 94.058 square miles Devon where I live is 2.534 square miles so no mean task trying to get a photo. I strongly believe there will be photo evidence in the not so distant future as more people put out more trap cameras. But even if a good photo is produced I think many people will poo poo it. There was some good photos of a Lynx by a bloke but he got slated to f**k even though he swore blind it was legit. There was mobil phone footage of a Lynx at Cornwood on the side of Dartmoor (somebody put it up on here on another thread) but that got slagged too.

Trouble is 20 years ago there where sighting quite often around were I live now very few. I think there are a lot less about now and massive areas to hide in.

Cheers Arry

[Greyman 28,545]

The best picture you will see is this one that was shot and is stuffed it’s kept in secret due to the fact it has no import papers with it because it was never imported it is mounted on a roe deer to emphasise its Britishness I think we are getting better at collecting dna which is enough to send a man to prison for life so should be enough to further our cause rick has a lot of very compelling footage that he will never publish but can be seen at the talks he does including a very clear video of a mountain lion walking around a farmyard at night, interestingly in that article the guy from Warwick university mentions the 20212 case were it was claimed to have been a fox that killed and ate a fully grown roe, though it was actually the first panthers pardos dna we ever gathered but the government placed a D notice gagging order on it which is why I have always had an issue with the labs at Warwick anyhow it is what it is 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,042]

On 25/07/2023 at 19:25, keepdiggin said:

Wonder why there’s never been any spotted leopards seen 

Cause they don’t look like lost labs or lurchers  mate 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 16,042]

Baring a few escapees , I cannot accept that the majority of sightings are not running dogs that have become lost or dumped for being jank