Abullx 141 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Looking at taking pheasant, hare, rabbit and pigeons do you think a red tail would take all these or is another bird better to get ie goshawk Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Red tail will do all that and more mate .Not quite so full on as a gos but impressive drive all the same . Might have to forget pigeons in a fair chase mate or mug them out a car window .Job for a falcon Id say . 1 Quote Link to post
Abullx 141 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, foxdropper said: Red tail will do all that and more mate .Not quite so full on as a gos but impressive drive all the same . Might have to forget pigeons in a fair chase mate or mug them out a car window .Job for a falcon Id say . Ok fair enough thanks Quote Link to post
Moorman 1 1,349 Posted July 6, 2023 Report Share Posted July 6, 2023 If I were you I would get out with a few people and see some different species in action. People don't seem to realise how it works with a hawk. A redtail needs to be worked very hard to get the fitness to do any good. By nature they are a buzzard so lazy and will always try to take the easy option. A lot of people get this illusion of walking out into a field with a bird of prey and spotting game in the distance, unleashing the beast and watching a thrilling spectacle as their bird takes down its prey after a spectacular flight. In reality they buy a bird it doesn't happen because of all the variables that are against you, i.e the bird, weather, game, fitness, time and permission to fly on. They get disappointed and another unfortunate hawk for sale on bird trader. The best thing that you can do is contact some local falconers and try getting a few days out so that you can see whats involved. Not trying to tell you what to do mate just trying to give you some truthful guidance! 5 Quote Link to post
Abullx 141 Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 On 06/07/2023 at 07:58, Moorman 1 said: If I were you I would get out with a few people and see some different species in action. People don't seem to realise how it works with a hawk. A redtail needs to be worked very hard to get the fitness to do any good. By nature they are a buzzard so lazy and will always try to take the easy option. A lot of people get this illusion of walking out into a field with a bird of prey and spotting game in the distance, unleashing the beast and watching a thrilling spectacle as their bird takes down its prey after a spectacular flight. In reality they buy a bird it doesn't happen because of all the variables that are against you, i.e the bird, weather, game, fitness, time and permission to fly on. They get disappointed and another unfortunate hawk for sale on bird trader. The best thing that you can do is contact some local falconers and try getting a few days out so that you can see whats involved. Not trying to tell you what to do mate just trying to give you some truthful guidance! Ok thanks but I’ve had birds before but just not a redtail Quote Link to post
Moorman 1 1,349 Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 23 hours ago, Abullx said: Ok thanks but I’ve had birds before but just not a redtail No problem saw your recent posts and took it you were a novice! Quote Link to post
Abullx 141 Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Moorman 1 said: No problem saw your recent posts and took it you were a novice! That’s understandable mate no worries Quote Link to post
Moorman 1 1,349 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 10/07/2023 at 22:18, Abullx said: That’s understandable mate no worries Good luck with whatever you go with, keep us posted! Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted July 12, 2023 Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 30/06/2023 at 19:59, Abullx said: Looking at taking pheasant, hare, rabbit and pigeons do you think a red tail would take all these or is another bird better to get ie goshawk Hard to give a definitive answer, Yes a gos would do all you ask But i honestly believe if you put the time into a redtail "most don't" Then in my opinion they can also do what you ask. Most people who get Redtails tend to think of them as being like Harris hawks and treat them the same, A Redtail entered when properly fit and flown daily is a splendid bird. Flown at weekends and unfit it will become a sulky, aggressive, uninterested, nightmare to own sitting in a tree looking at you for hours. Quote Link to post
Abullx 141 Posted July 13, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 10 hours ago, paulus said: Hard to give a definitive answer, Yes a gos would do all you ask But i honestly believe if you put the time into a redtail "most don't" Then in my opinion they can also do what you ask. Most people who get Redtails tend to think of them as being like Harris hawks and treat them the same, A Redtail entered when properly fit and flown daily is a splendid bird. Flown at weekends and unfit it will become a sulky, aggressive, uninterested, nightmare to own sitting in a tree looking at you for hours. Ok thanks Quote Link to post
Elchapo 3,166 Posted July 13, 2023 Report Share Posted July 13, 2023 Red tail no mater how fit isn't going be taking phesants in fair flight or pigeon, pigeons are a pain in the arse anyway,they will take them from following on , from soaring , and off the fist if you kick them up right under your feet but that's it , Goss are the way to go for feather , Quote Link to post
Abullx 141 Posted July 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 13/07/2023 at 19:27, Elchapo said: Red tail no mater how fit isn't going be taking phesants in fair flight or pigeon, pigeons are a pain in the arse anyway,they will take them from following on , from soaring , and off the fist if you kick them up right under your feet but that's it , Goss are the way to go for feather , Ok thanks Quote Link to post
j j m 6,536 Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 i had male red tail flown all the time mint ,but if he did not get out all the time was a nightmate sat and watched the world go bye 2 Quote Link to post
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