Deerhunter1 771 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:39, mC HULL said: id look at how there brought up fed and run before blaming the breed loads just leave em kennelled up start running em at year and half there’s not a running dog breed hardier and tough then a saluki bred mate the more saluki the tougher they are my little bitch would run that spanish land no bother and kill Expand None of these were badly reared I know the lads personally that had them just bad genetics saw it with my own eyes, sore nail beds, torn muscles, knocked up toes etc. I’m not anti saluki I’ve got a bit of it in my dogs as well but it’s not a given that saluki bred dogs will be durable definitely not Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,303 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:39, mC HULL said: id look at how there brought up fed and run before blaming the breed loads just leave em kennelled up start running em at year and half there’s not a running dog breed hardier and tough then a saluki bred mate the more saluki the tougher they are my little bitch would run that spanish land no bother and kill Expand Easy to say mate....when you will never have to prove it... Different ground and a different species of hare....I would love to see some of our home bred dogs on them Iberian hares 4 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,923 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:44, Deerhunter1 said: None of these were badly reared I know the lads personally that had them just bad genetics saw it with my own eyes, sore nail beds, torn muscles, knocked up toes etc. I’m not anti saluki I’ve got a bit of it in my dogs as well but it’s not a given that saluki bred dogs will be durable definitely not Expand you get a pure saluki it will take stick like nothing you’ve seen mate run tarmac and concrete lol your telling me a lurcher with most likely half grey is more hardy ? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,923 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:44, TOMO said: Easy to say mate....when you will never have to prove it... Different ground and a different species of hare....I would love to see some of our home bred dogs on them Iberian hares Expand i’ve seen a vid a good few years ago pure salukis from the uk knocking em over tomo you breed a dog for land you run don’t you or in galgos case to run in straight lines take a mile to put a bend in and have no mouth lol 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 16,022 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:45, mC HULL said: you get a pure saluki it will take stick like nothing you’ve seen mate run tarmac and concrete lol your telling me a lurcher with most likely half grey is more hardy ? Expand Will run off like nothing youv seen over tarmac an concrete and never come back ever 1 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:45, mC HULL said: you get a pure saluki it will take stick like nothing you’ve seen mate run tarmac and concrete lol your telling me a lurcher with most likely half grey is more hardy ? Expand Bitch I’ve got at the moment is as hardy as they come in my book been ran on some of the worst places you can think of and rarely gets knocked, but I know myself she wouldn’t be catching many of them Spanish hares because when the grounds hard she steadies right up, I could sit on here and lie and say she’d kill a bag full because I know I’d never have to do it but what’s the point in that, they’ve all got faults even the best of dogs 4 Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,441 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 19:39, mC HULL said: id look at how there brought up fed and run before blaming the breed loads just leave em kennelled up start running em at year and half there’s not a running dog breed hardier and tough then a saluki bred mate the more saluki the tougher they are my little bitch would run that spanish land no bother and kill Expand It's not salukis and saluki crosses that are the problem, it's some of the coursing breds. Obviously just some. Few have said their early stuff was harder etc 2 Quote Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted May 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 20:32, Gilbey said: It's not salukis and saluki crosses that are the problem, it's some of the coursing breds. Obviously just some. Few have said their early stuff was harder etc Expand I definitely agree Quote Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted May 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 I'd like to go over the Spain and watch one of these competitions I reckon it'd be good craic n a good experience. Apparently if you go in a bar they'll have a screen for football a screen for bull fighting n a screen for coursing different world to here eh especially to say its only 2 hours away on a plane. 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,923 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 me and pals much just be lucky then lol you inbreed heavy you will get weak shit that’s common sense 2 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,923 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 20:17, Deerhunter1 said: Bitch I’ve got at the moment is as hardy as they come in my book been ran on some of the worst places you can think of and rarely gets knocked, but I know myself she wouldn’t be catching many of them Spanish hares because when the grounds hard she steadies right up, I could sit on here and lie and say she’d kill a bag full because I know I’d never have to do it but what’s the point in that, they’ve all got faults even the best of dogs Expand dry conditions here are no different or when lads still get runs when it’s iced over dog eases up and if any good with speed will gear up and try Quote Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted May 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 I think when it comes to pups although there's never any guarantees you have to work them hard every generation really test them, weather someone goes out once a week or 3 times a week it's each there own aslong as there living the good life but when it comes to pups be that gundogs lurchers farm dogs or any working dogs for that matter they should only be bred of tried n tested n someone who is breeding for themselves and anyone looking to purchase a pup should look no further than this any if there isn't what you fancy about at the time then be patient but to many people breed for the wrong reasons and to many people buy said pups and over time weaknesses show, its like quarry run gear that doesn't know a dog n plenty on the land they usually fold easy but go to the spots that are hammerd with not much on n watch those afterburners set in.. 1 Quote Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted May 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 20:53, mC HULL said: me and pals much just be lucky then lol you inbreed heavy you will get weak shit that’s common sense Expand True that, Imo I hink you have a canny chance when you have a very tight bred n then outcross n then get the goods again by going back in later.. 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,923 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 On 19/05/2023 at 20:55, dodger said: I think when it comes to pups although there's never any guarantees you have to work them hard every generation really test them, weather someone goes out once a week or 3 times a week it's each there own aslong as there living the good life but when it comes to pups be that gundogs lurchers farm dogs or any working dogs for that matter they should only be bred of tried n tested n someone who is breeding for themselves and anyone looking to purchase a pup should look no further than this any if there isn't what you fancy about at the time then be patient but to many people breed for the wrong reasons and to many people buy said pups and over time weaknesses show, its like quarry run gear that doesn't know a dog n plenty on the land they usually fold easy but go to the spots that are hammerd with not much on n watch those afterburners set in.. Expand that’s it mate pups need to be out chasing about from ten week lads laugh when i say there’s spot you will walk all day for runs but december on some spots every hare will go 4 mins plus only real uns will stop em Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,923 Posted May 19, 2023 Report Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) On 19/05/2023 at 20:59, dodger said: True that, Imo I hink you have a canny chance when you have a very tight bred n then outcross n then get the goods again by going back in later.. Expand that’s it i like to breed same family tree but different lines and not scared to get one from a pure x coursing bred either i wouldn’t dream of getting a heavily inbred dog if there not hardy and always laid up there not worth a wank Edited May 19, 2023 by mC HULL Quote Link to post
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