Sooty Sam? % of Laguna?

[Guest markbrick1]

This is beggining to sound like a Hancock thread...

I have 2 good freinds who have 2 cracking whippets, with a lot of sooty sam in their make up and these 2 whippets, are, in my opinion, very good at what they do, i.e rats, rabbits, hares, foxes. Their not out and out fox dogs, but take the odd one, with no bother.

 

Just what i was thinking Frank.Ive never met the man or owned a pup from these lines,but i hear good stuff about these dogs all the time.Seems to be the "in thing" on this forum to find fault with everything.If the dog in question was "no good" how the f**k did he become so well known.

[mark the moocher 0]

If its an allround hunting dog you are after then buy a Whippet. If you want to guarantee the whippet to have the constitution to do it everyday then buy one from mike brown!

If however its an image you are after then buy a Bull x Greyhound!

[lanesra 3,994]

I`ve known Mike for a few years and he is a genuine dog man More genuine than many on here His dogs are bred to do a job and they do just that .

Funny how many slag him off , but no-one who owns one of his dogs has a bad word to say about him

couldnt of put it better, spot on mate.

[Guest mush]

so who was it that was finding fault ? as to how you get a dog well known the right advertising

Edited February 1, 2008 by mush

[bill88 6]

so who was it that was finding fault ? as to how you get a dog well known the right advertising

 

Advertising? where when? I only know of the dog in question through reading EDRD perhaps Mr Harcombe is in on it to,and MB is giving him a cut of the profits Like was mentioned earlier,its sounding like a Hancocks thread.

[Guest mush]

ever heard of tor of Dartmoor( pure saluki) and i'm not saying he was a bad dog just how many seen him run? but he was used as much as Sooty Sam. With the right advertising and plenty of pup around off that dog buyers will line up like sheep to get a pup. Now come on you lot altogether now bahbahbah

[Guest Frank]

Mush, have you seen Sooty Sam work?

[Guest mush]

only one has said they have seen him working on here, it would be better off talking about the parents to your dogs that you seen work, than some dog on a pedigree that so few have seen working.

[Guest Frank]

I have seen the parents of my pups work very well thanks. They were bred over here, from a make up of sooty Sam, Nimrodle ect. I have never met Mike Brown, dont know nowt about the man. All i know is, i have seen sooty sam whippets work, and work well they did.

Im just wondering, why you have such a set aginst Mike Brown himself and Sooty Sam, is their something we should know?

I gather, from what you said above, you have not seen Sooty Sam work, so why, make such comments?

[Guest greengrass123]

Mush, have you seen Sooty Sam work?

Got a fair point here dont doubt mike has some good dogs but sooty sam is becoming the such a legend that this question is bound to be asked.Know two lads with laguna line whippets neither of them could catch a rabbit in a telephone box.

[Guest Frank]

Mush, have you seen Sooty Sam work?

Got a fair point here dont doubt mike has some good dogs but sooty sam is becoming the such a legend that this question is bound to be asked.Know two lads with laguna line whippets neither of them could catch a rabbit in a telephone box.

 

Theirs good and bad in every strain, no strain is perfect. The majority, seem to work very well.

Put it this way, i have seen far more lurchers jacking and not chasing and greyhounds, then whippets.

[minion 29]

It's all about people hearing the same thing.

 

Advertising is simple. If you had a stud dog and came on all the working sites saying how good it was the name would stick. Just post reguarly on its update people will remember the name. If people say something enough then people start to believe what they hear.

 

Regarding this becoming a Hancock like thread, why shouldn't it???? why should Hancock get slated but Mike Brown's a hero? Whats the diferance between the two? both breed for proffit so are both puppy pedlers in my view. What standard their dogs produce is irelavent if you look at it from a moral view.

 

There are lots of people happy with their hancock lurchers but still he get s slated. Just because Mike Brown produces dogs people are happy with then it does not make it okay.

 

As fo Sooty Sam, look at this weeks countrymans, all whippet litters have him mentioned. Its all about a name. What people hear about. I find it strange that there's one rule for lurchers and one for whippets as there are far more whippet puppy pedlers than there are lurcher pedlers. It just happens that the lurcher is more succesfull.

 

If you buy from a p0edler its your choice and you dont have to justify yourself on here but dont make out they are not pedlers.

[Guest mush]

I have seen the parents of my pups work very well thanks. They were bred over here, from a make up of sooty Sam, Nimrodle ect. I have never met Mike Brown, dont know nowt about the man. All i know is, i have seen sooty sam whippets work, and work well they did.

Im just wondering, why you have such a set aginst Mike Brown himself and Sooty Sam, is their something we should know?

I gather, from what you said above, you have not seen Sooty Sam work, so why, make such comments?

sooty sam whippets LOL

were in my posts have i said anything about MB besides the pictures on his web site, and thats was fact. as for Sooty Sam whippets, one dog don't make a line and for anyone to say if a dogs any good that its all down to one dog that so few have seen work is a bit daft. There is only one reason why his name is put in every add and that is because his name sells even if no one seen him work.

[Guest mush]

spot on minion.

 

Frank most have had dogs at one time or another because of a name ( person or dog ) then with a few years in the dog game they realise that its better to go on what you know the parents, G parents can do and not what other say they can do.

Edited February 2, 2008 by mush

[Guest Frank]

In the past, i have got pups threw name ect. But have soon found out, its all a hype.

From this i have learnt, to see both, parents of the pups, work, not just once, but several times.

I have, by doing this, usually found it works, but, not allways.

As i have said, i have never met Mike Brown, dont know owt about how he works his dogs, so can not comment. All i have said is, iv seen 2 very good whippets, work, with a lot, of sooty sam in their make up and was impressed.

Mush, if you want to take this firther with Mike Brown, why not, as Penny Medow says, ring him up and visit him and see for yourself, then come back to me and give your opinion, as then, i will listen to you.

Minion, have you not got a whippet, with Luguna, in its make up??, have you seen the parents of your whippet work, several times, if you have, can you please explain, what was their working style , that atrracted you, to order a pup, off that breeding??