mC HULL 12,383 Posted May 14, 2023 Report Share Posted May 14, 2023 13 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Said this before as well and I agree . the caveat for myself is that in the right hands , a well conditioned, attuned and directed apbt is a sight to behold , the production of progeny from such a beast is what gives us the fantastic bull type runners . however when delivered in the wrong hands and raised by fools , there’s not a worse canine. A tragedy that the very thing that defines the breed is what compounds it’s ownership as an idiot magnet cracking dogs stiff but not something people should have as pets they need a certain type of owner 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,096 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 Unfortunately APBT's and Am Bullies appeal to a lot of people with little care for others, with their ego topping the charts. It's a real shame because the vast majority of these dogs are good family dogs and would die protecting them. Nothing is dangerous if it's kept under control and handled correctly. I raised my kids around pits and bandogs and never saw so much as a raised lip towards any of the family in 30 odd years. I believe most people shouldn't own these breeds, they just don't keep an eye on the animals and they should be left to experienced dog people. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,795 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: Unfortunately APBT's and Am Bullies appeal to a lot of people with little care for others, with their ego topping the charts. It's a real shame because the vast majority of these dogs are good family dogs and would die protecting them. Nothing is dangerous if it's kept under control and handled correctly. I raised my kids around pits and bandogs and never saw so much as a raised lip towards any of the family in 30 odd years. I believe most people shouldn't own these breeds, they just don't keep an eye on the animals and they should be left to experienced dog people. Sorry but It’s exactly that attitude that leads to where they are now imho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,383 Posted May 15, 2023 Report Share Posted May 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: Unfortunately APBT's and Am Bullies appeal to a lot of people with little care for others, with their ego topping the charts. It's a real shame because the vast majority of these dogs are good family dogs and would die protecting them. Nothing is dangerous if it's kept under control and handled correctly. I raised my kids around pits and bandogs and never saw so much as a raised lip towards any of the family in 30 odd years. I believe most people shouldn't own these breeds, they just don't keep an eye on the animals and they should be left to experienced dog people. my kids are always around the mutts but never by thereself i wouldn’t dream of getting a pit or pit/mastiff cross etc and having it around me kids any dog can turn for any number a reasons and a pit or xl will cause real damage in the blink of an eye why put yourself in that position 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,096 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, mC HULL said: my kids are always around the mutts but never by thereself i wouldn’t dream of getting a pit or pit/mastiff cross etc and having it around me kids any dog can turn for any number a reasons and a pit or xl will cause real damage in the blink of an eye why put yourself in that position Because I know the dogs, educate the kids and watch them. A fox terrier could kill a kid, they have and would also be a lot more likely to attack than a bull breed. There is always a small chance but in the situation I was in the dogs were needed and it would have been a lot less safe without them. The dogs I had to watch the most around the kids were the lurcher types. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,270 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 My mates sister sent this….. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,383 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Aussie Whip said: Because I know the dogs, educate the kids and watch them. A fox terrier could kill a kid, they have and would also be a lot more likely to attack than a bull breed. There is always a small chance but in the situation I was in the dogs were needed and it would have been a lot less safe without them. The dogs I had to watch the most around the kids were the lurcher types. i wouldn’t trust or be naive enough to think i know the dog that well mate as you say any can attack a kid but a bull type you’d have seconds if you was lucky i don’t need a bull type so weren’t in that position 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,162 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 Right scumbag 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 I thought that they had a history with the police to turn up like that so stuff him and his badly trained dogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 45,155 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 pity they didn't slot the owner too .. instead of tickling him with a tazer 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,795 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Aussie Whip said: Because I know the dogs, educate the kids and watch them. A fox terrier could kill a kid, they have and would also be a lot more likely to attack than a bull breed. There is always a small chance but in the situation I was in the dogs were needed and it would have been a lot less safe without them. The dogs I had to watch the most around the kids were the lurcher types. Would a fox terrier be able to inflict life changing / destroying injuries with one or two bites ?? would you think a fox terrier would drag a child around by the neck until it was severed from the torso ?? You come across as a sound lad to be honest mate , which is why I find it hugely surprising to read your opinion of this , a man knows his own dogs agreed but as Mchull has said , why take a risk? 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmag 6,057 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Would a fox terrier be able to inflict life changing / destroying injuries with one or two bites ?? would you think a fox terrier would drag a child around by the neck until it was severed from the torso ?? You come across as a sound lad to be honest mate , which is why I find it hugely surprising to read your opinion of this , a man knows his own dogs agreed but as Mchull has said , why take a risk? I totally agree there's no chances taken here or second chances given I wouldn't have that sort of dog round me as I have no need for one or nor would I have a dog that I even considered a risk especially round kids 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,096 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 11 hours ago, mC HULL said: i wouldn’t trust or be naive enough to think i know the dog that well mate as you say any can attack a kid but a bull type you’d have seconds if you was lucky i don’t need a bull type so weren’t in that position Have you ever owned pitbulls before? I'd hardly call it naive when I've spent the majority of my life with bull breeds and none have shown aggression to the family in any form. Humans are far more dangerous than dogs. When you live in isolated areas over here a sighthound isn't going to cut it protecting your family, you need man stopping dogs with stable temperaments. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,096 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said: Would a fox terrier be able to inflict life changing / destroying injuries with one or two bites ?? would you think a fox terrier would drag a child around by the neck until it was severed from the torso ?? You come across as a sound lad to be honest mate , which is why I find it hugely surprising to read your opinion of this , a man knows his own dogs agreed but as Mchull has said , why take a risk? I've heard of wire fox terriers killing babies, it would only take one bite. The risk of owning protection dogs like I had and them attacking my kids was extremely small. When you live hours from any help these dogs are invaluable. As I said there is always a slight risk. I've owned these breeds for over 45 years. Same with dogs like Boerboels in Africa, they could kill anyone quite easily but they don't own them for nothing. These type of dogs don't belong in suburbia though. I agree these dogs being called nanny dogs is misleading to uneducated people looking for a dog, they are serious protection animals and need experienced handling. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie Whip 4,096 Posted May 16, 2023 Report Share Posted May 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Blackmag said: I wouldn't have that sort of dog round me as I have no need for one That's it, but I did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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