colliexgreyhound 119 Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Which did you rate harder to catch. I’ve always found that on the lamp they where more difficult for the dog they seemed to run a lot more jinkier twisting and turning ,maybe the lamp blinds the dog at times too making them misjudge the strike.In general more got away than when they where pushed from cover. to where you be waitin with the dog for them to break. The element of surprise definitely increased the catch rate for myself any way. what’s your opinions ? Edited April 28, 2023 by colliexgreyhound Quote Link to post
tonyormy1 191 Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, colliexgreyhound said: Which did you rate harder to catch. I’ve always found that on the lamp they where more difficult for the dog they seemed to run a lot more jinkier twisting and turning maybe the lamp blinds the dog at times too making them misjudge the strike in general more got away than when they where pushed from cover to where you be waitin with the dog for them to break the element of surprise definitely increased the catch rate for myself any way what’s your opinions Always lamped my dogs mate dont get me wrong they would work day time with terriers bushing ive had dogs wouldnt entertain a fox but the dogs that loved the things ive had there was no real difference ATB TONY Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,097 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Daytime foxes are harder because they only offer a fraction of the numbers of lamped ones. Probably equal in that the lighter dazzles the dog and fox. I don't lamp now as the sport for me is bushing with the terriers and watching the mad daytime runs. In Winter here there are plenty of foxes out sunning themselves in tussock paddocks during the day. 1 Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 45,247 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 I think catching them regularly from cover in the daytime is harder than lamping imo....I like to walk the old quarrys at first light, usually put a few up and get a few runs 6 Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 I think it all depends on where you I can take people lamping on some of the places I go and unless the dog right up the bottle you ain't catching then I've been other place and just seem to knock them over regular,don't get me wrong all dogs are different some dogs just seem to catch every and some catch on certain ground and in certain places but all ground is different obviously,I used hunt this 1 place with my mate years ago small wood full of bramble held a few foxes we would split up and hunt through it my pal old beddy x would near enough always catch in that wood my dog wouldn't catch inside the but she'd catch them if they were on the edge of it his dog just had the nack in that wood 2 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,508 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Day time for me ! Iv seen some insane runs in the day and Iv had to close my eyes a few times while there running , bolting them from cover to waiting lurchers and lamping probably equal but for the lurcher to hunt it running and kill it a hell of job 7 Quote Link to post
Jude 85 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Every type of quarry is better in the daytime than on the lamp fact. Plenty of dogs can look good lamping but look average in the daytime. Foxes are probably the only thing that don’t make many mistakes on the lamp, don’t see them hitting or turning of a fence often 2 Quote Link to post
colliexgreyhound 119 Posted April 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 53 minutes ago, Jude said: Every type of quarry is better in the daytime than on the lamp fact. Plenty of dogs can look good lamping but look average in the daytime. Foxes are probably the only thing that don’t make many mistakes on the lamp, don’t see them hitting or turning of a fence often Yes I’d definitely agree there maybe once or twice a season they’ll make a silly mistake like coming into the call that fast the dog hits them head on but 99% of the time they dog has to catch the fair and square 1 Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 6 hours ago, Jude said: Every type of quarry is better in the daytime than on the lamp fact. Plenty of dogs can look good lamping but look average in the daytime. Foxes are probably the only thing that don’t make many mistakes on the lamp, don’t see them hitting or turning of a fence often Yeah true words mate Quote Link to post
Blackmag 6,067 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 When i see dogs like Wales 123 or that lad that put a clip up of his dogs on the hills them dogs do some miles and seriously graft for there catch were a decent lamp dog will kill 3/4 times more a week but not put the same mileage in its a bit of a double edge sword one runs miles for a kill the other takes 2/3 a night and is a better dispatcher neither could do what each does I would guess it whats suits your needs but a good for dog is just that a good dog 3 Quote Link to post
Deerhunter1 771 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Blackmag said: When i see dogs like Wales 123 or that lad that put a clip up of his dogs on the hills them dogs do some miles and seriously graft for there catch were a decent lamp dog will kill 3/4 times more a week but not put the same mileage in its a bit of a double edge sword one runs miles for a kill the other takes 2/3 a night and is a better dispatcher neither could do what each does I would guess it whats suits your needs but a good for dog is just that a good dog Good post, think it’s a bit unfair to compare to 2, same quarry but totally different hunting. The old saying horses for courses springs to mind. Edited April 30, 2023 by Deerhunter1 2 Quote Link to post
tonyormy1 191 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 On 29/04/2023 at 00:41, tonyormy1 said: Always lamped my dogs mate dont get me wrong they would work day time with terriers bushing ive had dogs wouldnt entertain a fox but the dogs that loved the things ive had there was no real difference ATB TONY what i was refering to was there a diffrence between taking 1 on the lamp to taking 1 in the day same dog same land as the lad said he feels they seem to jink and turn more on the lamp as in the day he foun d them easear to take in the day Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Good post, never really gone out just for foxes, old Bryn my 1x collie grey could find them in the day, but didn't like the sharp end , Buck could find them in the day as well. Where ever he got them he bring them back to me,. The prob I found with lamping them, was most were fookin lamp shy anyway, funny thing I've walked out at night after edible stuff, a d had couple foxes follow me, he must sent them, and was right on to them, he killed lot of stuff out the beam anyway. 4 Quote Link to post
dogmandont 9,814 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Daytime for me, either out of cover, dug or bolted. Always love a surprise bolt in a rough old spot where a lurcher has to put in a proper effort, watching a lurcher loose sight of its fox and either get it's head down and use their nose or spring on their hind legs to get sighted again reel it's fox in and kill it is priceless to me and is better than 10 handy ones on the lamp. 4 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 4,097 Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 16 hours ago, bird said: funny thing I've walked out at night after edible stuff, a d had couple foxes follow me, They do. I did a bit of roo shooting years ago on stubble right out West NSW and if you turned off the lights and stopped then hit the spotlight you would have multiple foxes up close. They would follow the ute waiting for guts and dead joeys. Not many bothered shooting foxes out there. Quote Link to post
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