Where’s all the good dogs gone?

[Deerhunter1 771]

9 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Could you expand on what you mean by “training”.

Do you mean obedience type trading, or fitness training ?

Cheers.

I’d say he’d be right on both counts, how many lurchers do you see with bad recall, or that aren’t broken to livestock. On the fitness side it’s much the same most dogs just taken out in august on hard ground with no fitness work & owners can’t understand why they’re getting injuries

[chartpolski 23,127]

1 minute ago, Deerhunter1 said:

I’d say he’d be right on both counts, how many lurchers do you see with bad recall, or that aren’t broken to livestock. On the fitness side it’s much the same most dogs just taken out in august on hard ground with no fitness work & owners can’t understand why they’re getting injuries

I wasn’t sure what he meant by “training”, but I see your point. 
To be fair, I probably put more emphasis on fitness training than obedience training.

Youre right with your examples; recall and stock breaking are absolute necessities, retrieve is also an advantage, but for the kind of work my dogs do, it’s not a big disadvantage if they don’t retrieve.

Ive never seen the point in training a running dog to FTCh standard, even though I have used lurchers for beating on shoots in the past.

Cheers.

[paulus 26]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I wasn’t sure what he meant by “training”, but I see your point. 
To be fair, I probably put more emphasis on fitness training than obedience training.

Youre right with your examples; recall and stock breaking are absolute necessities, retrieve is also an advantage, but for the kind of work my dogs do, it’s not a big disadvantage if they don’t retrieve.

Ive never seen the point in training a running dog to FTCh standard, even though I have used lurchers for beating on shoots in the past.

Cheers.

I used my lurchers for everything, lamping, ferreting, working very dense cover, rough shooting, pigeon shooting, beating, duck flighting even picking up on shoots and yes i did expect them to retrieve to hand and be easy to handle in any situation. 

They didn't need to be FTCh level but i did expect them to be able to do the job.  But its horses for courses as they say. 

[Deerhunter1 771]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I wasn’t sure what he meant by “training”, but I see your point. 
To be fair, I probably put more emphasis on fitness training than obedience training.

Youre right with your examples; recall and stock breaking are absolute necessities, retrieve is also an advantage, but for the kind of work my dogs do, it’s not a big disadvantage if they don’t retrieve.

Ive never seen the point in training a running dog to FTCh standard, even though I have used lurchers for beating on shoots in the past.

Cheers.

I’m the same, I don’t require a retrieve from my dogs. All I ask is a basic level of obedience, good recall, good with stock, jump on command. When I comes to fitness though I always make sure my dogs are right where I want them to be before I give them a run, being well prepared can save you a lot of lay offs

[Black neck 15,857]

12 minutes ago, Deerhunter1 said:

I’m the same, I don’t require a retrieve from my dogs. All I ask is a basic level of obedience, good recall, good with stock, jump on command. When I comes to fitness though I always make sure my dogs are right where I want them to be before I give them a run, being well prepared can save you a lot of lay offs

 Like me old mam used 2 say Proper planning and preparation prevents piss poor performance 

[Chaff 3,577]

I think that quite a few owners just own land sharks stick gps on them take them to likley spots  and then a good dog or bad dog opinion is formed.

 I have met with a few such owners, obviously not the type that can type.

Unlike all the good responsible owners here on THL

[mC HULL 12,204]

3 hours ago, chartpolski said:

Don’t ALL day walkers believe that ? PMSL !

Cheers.

a good day dog is elite lol  

 

[chartpolski 23,127]

16 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

a good day dog is elite lol  

 

A bit slow on the uptake mate !

Your next report card will include the comment “must be quicker to bite “ ! LOL !

Cheers.

[shaaark 10,694]

24 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

A bit slow on the uptake mate !

Your next report card will include the comment “must be quicker to bite “ ! LOL !

Cheers.

Charts, write something even remotely detrimental about fury, he'll be frothing at the mouth, and all over it like a drunk on a kebab!! 

[Bakerboy 4,644]

23 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Charts, write something even remotely detrimental about fury, he'll be frothing at the mouth, and all over it like a drunk on a kebab!! 

Have you seen the shape he's in, just seen a video of him with his next " opponent "

[chartpolski 23,127]

31 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Charts, write something even remotely detrimental about fury, he'll be frothing at the mouth, and all over it like a drunk on a kebab!! 

As it happens, I was at my nephews last Saturday to watch the football, and the conversation turned to boxing.

My nephew thinks Fury is the greatest boxer of all time !

Looks like another one I’ve got to educate !

What a sad indictment of the British education system this younger generation are !

Cheers.

[shaaark 10,694]

20 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

Have you seen the shape he's in, just seen a video of him with his next " opponent "

No, I've not, Bb.

He's in good shape, is he? 

[Bakerboy 4,644]

Just now, shaaark said:

No, I've not, Bb.

He's in good shape, is he? 

Aye for a fckn sumo...

[mC HULL 12,204]

2 hours ago, chartpolski said:

As it happens, I was at my nephews last Saturday to watch the football, and the conversation turned to boxing.

My nephew thinks Fury is the greatest boxer of all time !

Looks like another one I’ve got to educate !

What a sad indictment of the British education system this younger generation are !

Cheers.

he’s a great mate he would be hard for any heavyweight of any era to beat but a few might of pulled it off 

the greatest not for me 

[mC HULL 12,204]

2 hours ago, Bakerboy said:

Aye for a fckn sumo...

a real man win can fight and won’t jack 

then you get insecure jackers full a muscle from a bottle lol