APBT x wheaten

[jigsaw 11,863]

8 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

ooooh am dying to jump in here but will be a gent and leave it to the chap its directed at 

Feel free make interesting reading 

[Jackmo 53]

7 hours ago, Setenta said:

It’s a pointless cross. Two breeds bred together solely to line the owners pockets. This is the same fella who bred his male wheaten to a canary mastiff cross. 

From your perspective why do you feel it’s a pointless cross ? If they guys that breed them feel they can do a job then why not ! I believe their days as a field dog is well over but who am I to judge what people keep/do, I find it interesting there being used on boar and seem to be doing well .

[chesney 5,444]

6 hours ago, Jackmo said:

From your perspective why do you feel it’s a pointless cross ? If they guys that breed them feel they can do a job then why not ! I believe their days as a field dog is well over but who am I to judge what people keep/do, I find it interesting there being used on boar and seem to be doing well .

Be a good test for wheatens 

[downsouth 7,217]

6 hours ago, chesney said:

Be a good test for wheatens 

I dont think boar are any big test.Yeah they can be a bit rough but Ive known of complete curs that would grab and hold boar.Knew of on bitch that was very good on them that wouldnt even touch a poxy little fox single handed.

[C.green 3,229]

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Edited May 9, 2023 by C.green

[chesney 5,444]

1 hour ago, downsouth said:

I dont think boar are any big test.Yeah they can be a bit rough but Ive known of complete curs that would grab and hold boar.Knew of on bitch that was very good on them that wouldnt even touch a poxy little fox single handed.

I was mainly just thinking of it been out in a country where its legal to use thst type dog be interesting to see how they would fair  out

[C.green 3,229]

23 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

In fairness mine are probably for very different reasons and you lads are far more dedicated " hunters " if you like than i ever will be so not for me to say whats right and wrong really.....im just a purist of the apbt as a breed and cannot see anything another dog breed could possibly add in a situation of violence that wont compromise the qualities the breed is known for.

I reckon the only thing a wheaten would add to a pitbull is coat would be a big plus for some people 

[Aussie Whip 4,092]

4 hours ago, downsouth said:

I dont think boar are any big test.Yeah they can be a bit rough but Ive known of complete curs that would grab and hold boar.Knew of on bitch that was very good on them that wouldnt even touch a poxy little fox single handed.

I don't think so either, most dogs hate pigs and plenty will tackle them. The whippets will grab them. You need b ig strong dogs if you take pig catching seriously and want your dogs to live a while. Look how many jagd get killed in Europe on boars. Being too game and catching pigs doesn't go hand in hand.

[JMc 226]

Ch Jihad…maybe all mouth and no trousers,what do you think about modern dogs being strong on bite but no gaminess,or deep gaminess,just chiming in,nice dog by the way,got one here I think has a bit of Wheaton in him,passed the grand sire though who was an Irish import,I had a litter of five out of him last year and one pup was pretty much a smallish Wheaton.Atb

[JMc 226]

Dog on the right.

[Hatch28 240]

On 09/05/2023 at 00:41, Setenta said:

It’s a pointless cross. Two breeds bred together solely to line the owners pockets. This is the same fella who bred his male wheaten to a canary mastiff cross. 

Wheaten men have being crossing in bull blood for decades and as for making money from them you would be lucky to find good homes for them,you'd get pits for taking away around here.

[Aussie Whip 4,092]

As far as I know they have added bull blood into many hunting dogs, terriers, pig dogs and even whippets to get that little bit extra, then go back. It's a good thing to add imo as long as it doesn't dominate and alter the original too much and take away the attributes of the original breed.

[Setenta 117]

On 09/05/2023 at 06:56, Hannibal3 said:

Do you know the fella who bred them mate ? If you did I’m quite sure you wouldn’t say it was about money. 
ive had 4 dogs from him now over the past few years and no money has ever changed hands . He had 9 pups from this litter and as far as I’m aware he gifted 6 out and sold 3 so I’m not sure how he is lining his pockets. If he was just churning out pups for money I don’t think he would be messing about with wheatens . They are hardly a money spinner, he would be breeding xl bullies or Merle things 

No I don't but I have heard plenty from lads who know him. Crossing Wheatens with mastiffs sums him up in my opinion.  

[Setenta 117]

On 09/05/2023 at 20:39, downsouth said:

I dont think boar are any big test.Yeah they can be a bit rough but Ive known of complete curs that would grab and hold boar.Knew of on bitch that was very good on them that wouldnt even touch a poxy little fox single handed.

100%, boar hunting is not a test for a Wheaten and a true working Wheaten is the last dog you want around other dogs when they are working. 

[gnasher16 30,057]

On 09/05/2023 at 22:25, C.green said:

I reckon the only thing a wheaten would add to a pitbull is coat would be a big plus for some people 

Yep fair enough.....not sure what you could lose is worth what you gain though but thats part and parcel of crossing dogs i suppose.