EDDIE B 3,159 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, mackem said: I think if a big cat is hungry,and commited to an attack then a slightly bitter taste (if any) isn’t going to cause it to break off an assault.But if it were true I can’t imagine it’s been overlooked in India and Africa but discovered in the UK?All speculation on everyone’s part,mine included. Safe for human consumption after 14 days. Maybe a deterrent for a week or so at best id say. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,613 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, EDDIE B said: Here's the thing though. Is dipping not part and parcel, of breeding sheep? In this day and age, I would assume all farmers dip their sheep. Why even large flocks of hill sheep are rounded up for dipping, or am I wrong on that statement? I haven't got the first idea on farming practises , you'd think that they all would thoigh but like I said I'm sure the farmer said that he didn't dip them 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,613 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, mackem said: I think if a big cat is hungry,and commited to an attack then a slightly bitter taste (if any) isn’t going to cause it to break off an assault.But if it were true I can’t imagine it’s been overlooked in India and Africa but discovered in the UK?All speculation on everyone’s part,mine included. Do you think they dip in India and Africa? Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,156 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Do you think they dip in India and Africa? I know some do in India,not everyone but some do,farmers are subsistence level,very little cash floating around for people never mind sheep,but some do.However,there’s no disputing the fact leopards live,and breed in India. Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,156 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Welsh_red said: Do you think they dip in India and Africa? Just googled,yes sheep dipping is common practice in Africa,again as with India the dirt poor subsistence farmers might not be able to afford it however,who knows. Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 The snow leopard—Panthera uncia—is the world's most elusive and least-studied big cat. It lives in remote mountain ranges across Central Asia,inhabiting an area that spans 600,000 square miles across 12 countries. And yet within a few weeks maybe even days.. people have caught pics of them on trail cams.. "The world's most elusive big cat" And yet not a single quality image of a big cat taken in the uk..not even a kitten has been pictured.. And there's nearly 70 million people living in the uk maybe half the population owns a modern mobile phone with a high quality camera.. And no quality pictures..winter in the uk every hedgerow can be seen through everywoods can be seen into due to lack of foliage. So realistically yes maybe the odd escape or released big cat has been shot or caught in a cage.. But a breeding population in the uk..no chance at all.. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,156 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, king said: The snow leopard—Panthera uncia—is the world's most elusive and least-studied big cat. It lives in remote mountain ranges across Central Asia,inhabiting an area that spans 600,000 square miles across 12 countries. And yet within a few weeks maybe even days.. people have caught pics of them on trail cams.. "The world's most elusive big cat" And yet not a single quality image of a big cat taken in the uk..not even a kitten has been pictured.. And there's nearly 70 million people living in the uk maybe half the population owns a modern mobile phone with a high quality camera.. And no quality pictures..winter in the uk every hedgerow can be seen through everywoods can be seen into due to lack of foliage. So realistically yes maybe the odd escape or released big cat has been shot or caught in a cage.. But a breeding population in the uk..no chance at all.. Ghost cats live in incredible habitat,seriously rugged high altitude country. Link to post Share on other sites
king 11,972 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, mackem said: Ghost cats live in incredible habitat,seriously rugged high altitude country. It is amazing habitat mate..and yet they are caught on trail cams it seems with ease.. The so called expert that says there's 500 in the uk..Well why doesent he catch a clear pic on a trail cam..or catch 1 in a cage and prove to everyone that there's cats here.. The simple answer is he can't because they ain't here.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,802 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Greyman said: after 700 pages on the topic that is not what is said, again looking To just undermine things instead of seeking truth and answers sheep are not a preference and dipped sheep even less so but don’t think anyone has ever claimed nor would they that sheep don’t get taken,all these pics have been used before so your statement is totally false anyways I’m off out for the afternoon with a guy from Africa that teaches tracking of the big 5 think there is more to be learned out there doing it for real have a good afternoon that's a very small bite wound as a 20p piece is not quite an inch wide making that bite wound an inch and a half 2inch max 1 Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,159 Posted April 29, 2023 Report Share Posted April 29, 2023 Another thing that doesn't add up. Well for me anyways. The stories about people letting out their pet leopards etc, back in the day, when laws changed How come we haven't read about stories of these pets turning up at people's doorsteps? Yes we read about them being released in quiet places, away from people etc. Well how vast is the British countryside? I'm sure these cats can travel a fair distance, within a few days. Any recent escapee's, seem to turn up close to built up area's, fairly quickly, and are delt with. Why not all these cats released in the seventies? That brings me to the next question. Why would people release these pet cats into the countryside anyway? Their beloved pets, leaving them out in the middle of nowhere to starve? Why not just hand them over? Not that they'd get into any trouble for having them. Just seems odd, that they'd dump them off the side of the road. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Deker 3,478 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 9 hours ago, EDDIE B said: Safe for human consumption after 14 days. Maybe a deterrent for a week or so at best id say. Who taught Big Cats to read then??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
EDDIE B 3,159 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Deker said: Who taught Big Cats to read then??? Ha, what I was getting at, was that if humans can consume after 14 days, they there is obviously no smell or taste of the meat at that stage, if at all. So how long would dipping deter a cat from killing and consuming dipped sheep? Edited April 30, 2023 by EDDIE B 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, Deker said: Who taught Big Cats to read then??? Same fecker that taught em the green cross code. 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 26,156 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, EDDIE B said: So how long would dipping deter a cat from killing and consuming dipped sheep? If at all, I would actually like to see the data on this rather than it be repeated verbatim as fact. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BEARINATOR 2,867 Posted April 30, 2023 Report Share Posted April 30, 2023 Just a moment... BESJOURNALS.ONLINELIBRARY.WILEY.COM This shows that lynx in France do go for sheep so unless we have different wild cats then sheep will be on the menu, just seen as well that the lynx in France are going extinct so the rewilding was a waste of time Link to post Share on other sites
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