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[EDDIE B 3,159]

50 minutes ago, gnipper said:

Out of interest have all your dogs buried bones? My last terrier is the first dog I've had that would sneak away and bury her rats and I've had one other dog (collie bred) which buried food or bones but collies are weird buggers at the best of times. The rest just ate them.

Just stuck it up as an example lad. I believe it's instinct. Same with well fed house cats killing stuff.

[BEARINATOR 2,867]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

I wonder where that data Originated? Interesting. 

It was for a release of lynx in Europe as remember reading it as well about 8 years ago or something 

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3 minutes ago, BEARINATOR said:

It was for a release of lynx in Europe as remember reading it as well about 8 years ago or something 

I wouldn't mind reading a link? I wonder if it's applicable to real big cats in places like India, the few flocks of goats and sheep I saw in leopard country always had a couple of herders to drive/protect the stock. 

[EDDIE B 3,159]

43 minutes ago, mackem said:

I wouldn't mind reading a link? I wonder if it's applicable to real big cats in places like India, the few flocks of goats and sheep I saw in leopard country always had a couple of herders to drive/protect the stock. 

I've read a few articles about sheep kills by M lions in parts of the US. No mention of dipping being a deterrent. Even if it was, it would probably only work if they were freshly dipped. 

[EDDIE B 3,159]

The young dispersing juveniles , seem to be fairly brainless, like the young of any species I suppose. Why hasn't one been trapped or shot in the UK, after all this time?

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[sandymere 8,263]

29 minutes ago, EDDIE B said:

The young dispersing juveniles , seem to be fairly brainless, like the young of any species I suppose. Why hasn't one been trapped or shot in the UK, after all this time?

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Perhaps because they'll never be able to trap what isn't there

[sandymere 8,263]

8 hours ago, Greyman said:

after 700 pages on the topic that is not what is said, again looking To just undermine things instead of seeking truth and answers sheep are not a preference and dipped sheep even less so but don’t think anyone has ever claimed nor would they that sheep don’t get taken,all these pics have been used before so your statement is totally false anyways I’m off out for the afternoon with a guy from Africa that teaches tracking of the big 5 think there is more to be learned out there doing it for real have a good afternoon 

That is very likely to be dog bites, I've skinned a few deer over the years and there's often a variety of  puncture wounds and tears both in pairs and singles that could be taken as cat if I didn't know better

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[sandymere 8,263]

8 hours ago, Greyman said:

 I’m off out for the afternoon with a guy from Africa that teaches tracking of the big 5 

Have they tracked any in the UK? Id expect they would be able to set up a trail cam to get some decent pictures within a few weeks. 

[EDDIE B 3,159]

9 minutes ago, sandymere said:

That is very likely to be dog bites, I've skinned a few deer over the years and there's often a variety of  puncture wounds and tears both in pairs and singles that could be taken as cat if I didn't know better

Speaking of which. Seemingly a better test is to slice down along the neck, where you should find a mass of clotted blood, from where the cat killed it's prey by asphyxiation. This is suppose to be a sure sign it was a cat kill.

[shaaark 10,693]

5 hours ago, gnipper said:

Out of interest have all your dogs buried bones? My last terrier is the first dog I've had that would sneak away and bury her rats and I've had one other dog (collie bred) which buried food or bones but collies are weird buggers at the best of times. The rest just ate them.

I've also owned a few dogs that didn't bury their bones, and a couple that weren't really interested in bones at all.

And, just to add, and I think you know where I'm going with this lol, the weirdest dog I've owned, over anything, was sired by TAFFY, Hancock's old stud dog.  Would eat the WHOLE head of a fallow, but turn his nose up at a few fresh chicken bones!!  Lol

Edited April 29, 2023 by shaaark

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5 hours ago, mackem said:

I wonder where that data Originated? Interesting. 

Someone has replied on here about it being mentioned in lynx reintroduction . I'm not sure that's where I heard it tho 

I can't give you any data but it might of been on greymans podcast or on YouTube somewhere.  I think It was anecdotal from a farmer who didn't dip his sheep and next doors did and he lost sheep and next door didn't.  Greyman will either confirm or deny if it was on his podcast tho .

I suppose it would make sense tho as I reckon the taste of dip would be pretty off-putting.  I can see a point about it having to be newly dipped sheep but maybe on other side of coin maybe their will be remnants of smell etc for long time afterwards that we can't detect but other animals can.  who knows 

[EDDIE B 3,159]

9 minutes ago, shaaark said:

I've also owned a few dogs that didn't bury their bones, and a couple that weren't really interested in bones at all.

I don't give dogs bones any more. Always end up killing each other over them. Tend to bury them more often, when you have more than one dog.

[mackem 26,091]

Just now, Welsh_red said:

Someone has replied on here about it being mentioned in lynx reintroduction . I'm not sure that's where I heard it tho 

I can't give you any data but it might of been on greymans podcast or on YouTube somewhere.  I think It was anecdotal from a farmer who didn't dip his sheep and next doors did and he lost sheep and next door didn't.  Greyman will either confirm or deny if it was on his podcast tho .

I suppose it would make sense tho as I reckon the taste of dip would be pretty off-putting.  I can see a point about it having to be newly dipped sheep but maybe on other side of coin maybe their will be remnants of smell etc for long time afterwards that we can't detect but other animals can.  who knows 

I think if a big cat is hungry,and commited to an attack then a slightly bitter taste (if any) isn’t going to cause it to break off an assault.But if it were true I can’t imagine it’s been overlooked in India and Africa but discovered in the UK?All speculation on everyone’s part,mine included.

[shaaark 10,693]

6 minutes ago, EDDIE B said:

I don't give dogs bones any more. Always end up killing each other over them. Tend to bury them more often, when you have more than one dog.

Yeah, dogs do often get a tad 'twitchy' over bones.

But like I said, I've owned a few that DIDN'T bury bones, and a couple that really weren't interested in bones at all.

[EDDIE B 3,159]

10 minutes ago, Welsh_red said:

Someone has replied on here about it being mentioned in lynx reintroduction . I'm not sure that's where I heard it tho 

I can't give you any data but it might of been on greymans podcast or on YouTube somewhere.  I think It was anecdotal from a farmer who didn't dip his sheep and next doors did and he lost sheep and next door didn't.  Greyman will either confirm or deny if it was on his podcast tho .

I suppose it would make sense tho as I reckon the taste of dip would be pretty off-putting.  I can see a point about it having to be newly dipped sheep but maybe on other side of coin maybe their will be remnants of smell etc for long time afterwards that we can't detect but other animals can.  who knows 

Here's the thing though. Is dipping not part and parcel, of breeding sheep? In this day and age, I would assume all farmers dip their sheep. Why even large flocks of hill sheep are rounded up for dipping, or am I wrong on that statement?

Edited April 29, 2023 by EDDIE B