another big cat sightings 2

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Thank you for a calm if unresolved debate mate ,lol.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

18 minutes ago, paulus said:

That is the law mate, It was changed the other year to be inline with dogs. 

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

Just to state mate ,dogs don’t have any protection if off the lead ,out of control and worrying livestock .

Feral dogs are trapped in cities and euthanised by charities mate under no license .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

21 minutes ago, paulus said:

That is the law mate, It was changed the other year to be inline with dogs. 

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

Just to state mate ,dogs don’t have any protection if off the lead ,out of control and worrying livestock .

Feral dogs are trapped in cities and euthanised by charities mate under no license .

[paulus 26]

6 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Again mate you are confusing the welfare act with protection orders .Any feral cat that is around livestock ie chickens etc and is deemed to be worrying ,killing or even upsetting livestock can be killed by the landowner or his representative .

The welfare act protects ALL wildlife and domestic animals from abuse such as you’ve outlined .
If you can provide any links to your thoughts mate Id be grateful .

Theft Act 1968

Cats are regarded as property in the eyes of the law. This means that cats who appear to be stray or lost are still considered the property of their original owner and so adequate steps must be taken to locate the original owner where possible.

 

Criminal Damage Act 1971

If a person harms or kills your cat without lawful excuse* then they may be liable. Not only is it an offense for anyone (including the owner) to cause unnecessary suffering to a cat but it is also classed as criminal damage if someone harms your cat because the cat is considered your property.

The most common lawful excuse is if somebody has hit your cat with their car by accident.

 

Animal Act 1971

This act recognises that cats are less likely than other animals, such as dogs and livestock to cause damage to property and/or injure people. The outcome of this is that the law does not require owners to confine their cats within their property.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

22 minutes ago, paulus said:

That is the law mate, It was changed the other year to be inline with dogs. 

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

Just to state mate ,dogs don’t have any protection if off the lead ,out of control and worrying livestock .

Feral dogs are trapped in cities and euthanised by charities mate under no license .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

22 minutes ago, paulus said:

That is the law mate, It was changed the other year to be inline with dogs. 

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

Just to state mate ,dogs don’t have any protection if off the lead ,out of control and worrying livestock .

Feral dogs are trapped in cities and euthanised by charities mate under no license .

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

2 minutes ago, paulus said:

Theft Act 1968

Cats are regarded as property in the eyes of the law. This means that cats who appear to be stray or lost are still considered the property of their original owner and so adequate steps must be taken to locate the original owner where possible.

 

Criminal Damage Act 1971

If a person harms or kills your cat without lawful excuse* then they may be liable. Not only is it an offense for anyone (including the owner) to cause unnecessary suffering to a cat but it is also classed as criminal damage if someone harms your cat because the cat is considered your property.

The most common lawful excuse is if somebody has hit your cat with their car by accident.

 

Animal Act 1971

This act recognises that cats are less likely than other animals, such as dogs and livestock to cause damage to property and/or injure people. The outcome of this is that the law does not require owners to confine their cats within their property.

No mention of feral cats there though Paul .All that is a given Id say .

[paulus 26]

5 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

No mention of feral cats there though Paul .All that is a given Id say .

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

True feral cats are a breed apart from domestic moggies and usually display signs of cat flu ,mange and other maladies .Most farm cats would come under this heading .Left to fend for themselves on rats and mice .

I would never knowingly kill a cat that belonged somewhere .

[paulus 26]

5 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

True feral cats are a breed apart from domestic moggies and usually display signs of cat flu ,mange and other maladies .Most farm cats would come under this heading .Left to fend for themselves on rats and mice .

I would never knowingly kill a cat that belonged somewhere .

That's where the grey area starts mate, a local yard has dozens of inbred semi ferals, They feed them once a week. They are everywhere in the local area but all belong to the person who feeds them, We have one that has been coming to our back door for the last 10 years or more, wont come in or let you get near it but its condition is about as good as i have ever seen on a cat. 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

17 minutes ago, paulus said:

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

Still not grasping the true feral cat there mate .It dosnt need occasional feeding nor does it seek out human company .There’s a few farms here rife with the fuckers .

If a large cat is released or escapes we are lead to believe it reverts very quickly to its wild brethren traits and lives off its wits and cunning or we’d have them purring by the back door for a saucer of milk .Supposedly they learn to avoid camera traps as well but that’s another story for the fireside .

These cats have gone feral ,the term for any once domesticated ,caged or fenced animal that reverts to the wild state and does not seek out human intervention .

They are afforded no legal protection but are still covered by the animal welfare act .Can be killed humanely if worrying livestock in any way legal ie shooting or trapping .Read Eddies post earlier .

 

 

[paulus 26]

1 minute ago, foxdropper said:

Still not grasping the true feral cat there mate .It dosnt need occasional feeding nor does it seek out human company .There’s a few farms here rife with the fuckers .

If a large cat is released or escapes we are lead to believe it reverts very quickly to its wild brethren traits and lives off its wits and cunning or we’d have them purring by the back door for a saucer of milk .Supposedly they learn to avoid camera traps as well but that’s another story for the fireside .

These cats have gone feral ,the term for any once domesticated ,caged or fenced animal that reverts to the wild state and does not seek out human intervention .

They are afforded no legal protection but are still covered by the animal welfare act .Can be killed humanely if worrying livestock in any way legalise shooting or trapping .

 

 

Unless you are breeding hamsters, apart from young poults early in the season what livestock could they possibly worry?, Trust me i am no fan of cats. all this is hypothetical as nobody in there right mind would brag about a subject that is so open to interpretation as far as the law is concerned. 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

5 minutes ago, paulus said:

Unless you are breeding hamsters, apart from young poults early in the season what livestock could they possibly worry?, Trust me i am no fan of cats. all this is hypothetical as nobody in there right mind would brag about a subject that is so open to interpretation as far as the law is concerned. 

Your joking arnt you mate .Feral cats will tackle chickens and ducks no problem and obviously the bigger the cat the bigger livestock it will tackle .

Full grown pheasants and partridge are taken .Used to see it keepering but they were very easy to live trap .

 

 

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2 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Your joking arnt you mate .Feral cats will tackle chickens and ducks no problem and obviously the bigger the cat the bigger livestock it will tackle .

Full grown pheasants and partridge are taken .Used to see it keepering but they were very easy to live trap .

 

 

I have had hundreds in traps mate, once had one in a small live catch rat tray baited with chips, have no idea how it even managed to get in there, was a twat getting it out as it belonged to the house down the road, also use to get fed up of them getting caught in the fox tunnel traps, had one twat that i had to release daily near enough, 

My dogs would come back with one wrapped around their heads like one of those things from the pods in the alien movies,

They are a menace to the countryside but as i say its a grey area when it comes to determining what's feral and what's not, You have your views and i have mine, 

[mackem 26,226]

1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

 Supposedly they learn to avoid camera traps as well but that’s another story for the fireside .

Ring video doorbells are their nemesis.