another big cat sightings 2

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

1 hour ago, FOXHUNTER said:

Exactly this.

Feral cats are unowned domestic cats Genus Felis which can legally be controlled. 

Other big cats Leopard,Lion,Tiger and Jaguar Genus Panthera cannot be legally controlled. 

Bit it's all hearsay and irrelevant anyway seeing as they dont exist in the wild in the UK.

 

Read Eddies post mate .You are wrong bud .When has anyone lost their fac through shooting one of these things in the past as I know a few have been shot years back .The media and hype like on here is the only thing stopping anyone from shooting the holy grail and bringing the whole fiasco to a timely conclusion .

You say they arnt there so how the hell can they be be protected .lol.

All belong to the genus felidae mate .All of which can be described as feral if were once in contact with man .The term feral applies  to anything that has lived along side man ,caged  or fenced but now roams free and has lost its bond with mankind .Pigs ,goats cattle and horses all fall within feral terms if they do not rely on human contact to survive .

You are thinking too much into it mate .

These cats if they are there had to of come from pet homes ,collections etc .

 

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

45 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

 

All belong to the genus felidae mate .

 

Wrong mate Felidae is the family not the genus .

If a leopard escaped from a zoo it doesnt suddenly become a feral cat its still a leopard. 

Anyway not arguing as they dont exist in the wild.

Feral cats are unowned domestic cats

 

[paulus 26]

3 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Read Eddies post mate .You are wrong bud .When has anyone lost their fac through shooting one of these things in the past as I know a few have been shot years back .The media and hype like on here is the only thing stopping anyone from shooting the holy grail and bringing the whole fiasco to a timely conclusion .

You say they arnt there so how the hell can they be be protected .lol.

All belong to the genus felidae mate .All of which can be described as feral if were once in contact with man .The term feral applies  to anything that has lived along side man ,caged  or fenced but now roams free and has lost its bond with mankind .Pigs ,goats cattle and horses all fall within feral terms if they do not rely on human contact to survive .

You are thinking too much into it mate .

These cats if they are there had to of come from pet homes ,collections etc .

 

Cats are regarded in law as property, so the theft of a cat is treated as an offence under the Act, in the same way as theft of any other property. A cat that is lost or has strayed is generally regarded as the property of the original owner. It is therefore necessary to try to return a lost cat to its owner.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

21 minutes ago, paulus said:

Cats are regarded in law as property, so the theft of a cat is treated as an offence under the Act, in the same way as theft of any other property. A cat that is lost or has strayed is generally regarded as the property of the original owner. It is therefore necessary to try to return a lost cat to its owner.

You’ve made all that up Paul .Stick to facts mate .Cats that are living wild ,off their wits are feral end of .I’ve shot countless ferals and dogged them mate with no recourse at all .

If the cat has a tag and is tame it’s generally a pet yes but everything is fair game .

[shaaark 10,702]

6 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Out of like Stan .

Also a  term for someone with nothing up top .

Yet I, ME, regularly see you making mistakes with your grasp on grammar and the English language!!

Oh dear, the irony!!

I think bungalow should be reserved for you. 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

3 hours ago, FOXHUNTER said:

Wrong mate Felidae is the family not the genus .

If a leopard escaped from a zoo it doesnt suddenly become a feral cat its still a leopard. 

Anyway not arguing as they dont exist in the wild.

Feral cats are unowned domestic cats

 

So what are unowned large cats then mate .Yep feral cats you’ve ,got it .

Its not an argument mate .Thought you of all people could stay calm and discuss something .

The reason so many threads go tits up is just this reason .Keep calm and discuss .?

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Just now, shaaark said:

Yet I, ME, regularly see you making mistakes with your grasp on grammar and the English language!!

Oh dear, the irony!!

I think bungalow should be reserved for you. 

Even if it was me mate and not the phone ,I can live with that but your still a bit like a 2 watt lightbulb .

[paulus 26]

7 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

You’ve made all that up Paul .Stick to facts mate .Cats that are living wild ,off their wits are feral end of .I’ve shot countless ferals and dogged them mate with no recourse at all .

If the cat has a tag and is tame it’s generally a pet yes but everything is fair game .

That is the law mate, It was changed the other year to be inline with dogs. 

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Just now, paulus said:

That is the law mate, It was changed the other year to be inline with dogs. 

Hasn’t reached rural Wiltshire mate .I’ll still frag one that hasn’t a collar .Hate the things .

Can you put up the exact legislation please mate .
Its actually nice to have a chilled conversation mate so thanks for that ?

[paulus 26]

Just now, foxdropper said:

Hasn’t reached rural Wiltshire mate .I’ll still frag one that hasn’t a collar .Hate the things .

Can you put up the exact legislation please mate .
Its actually nice to have a chilled conversation mate so thanks for that ?

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

4 minutes ago, paulus said:

The legal status of cats under the UK Animal Welfare Acts is that of protected animals. UK law generally regards companion animals such as cats as personal property so that any damage or harm to a cat is legally the same as damage to any other piece of property. The law applies not just to cats which are clearly linked to a single property and an identifiable owner, but also to stray and feral cats that may occasionally be fed by humans

Can you quote the legislation please Paul because as far as defra are concerned they can  be killed at every opportunity ,ferals that is .

I think your confusing any protection with the care and welfare act mate that protects every single animal from being abused .Not the same as having legal protection status .

[paulus 26]

The criminal law also covers harm caused to a cat by a third party (somebody other than the owner). The law makes it an offence to kill or injure companion animals (see definition at page 5) so that if a person harmed or killed a cat belonging to another they could be prosecuted. Ownership of the animal does not have to be proved as the law recognises domestic cats as protected animals. So, in the event of the death or injury of a cat caused by a third party (even where ownership of the animal cannot be established) the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) may consider a charge of criminal damage, although there are sometimes difficulties with having enough evidence to prosecute these cases. In addition causing unnecessary suffering to another’s cat is a crime under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 so that animal abuse cases (eg, kicking, burning, placing cats in rubbish bins) can be prosecuted under the criminal law.

[paulus 26]

Just now, foxdropper said:

Can you quote the legislation please Paul because as far as defra are concerned they can  be killed at every opportunity ,ferals that is .

Its covered by multiple laws mate, google it. 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

6 minutes ago, paulus said:

The criminal law also covers harm caused to a cat by a third party (somebody other than the owner). The law makes it an offence to kill or injure companion animals (see definition at page 5) so that if a person harmed or killed a cat belonging to another they could be prosecuted. Ownership of the animal does not have to be proved as the law recognises domestic cats as protected animals. So, in the event of the death or injury of a cat caused by a third party (even where ownership of the animal cannot be established) the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) may consider a charge of criminal damage, although there are sometimes difficulties with having enough evidence to prosecute these cases. In addition causing unnecessary suffering to another’s cat is a crime under the Animal Welfare Act 2006 so that animal abuse cases (eg, kicking, burning, placing cats in rubbish bins) can be prosecuted under the criminal law.

Again mate you are confusing the welfare act with protection orders .Any feral cat that is around livestock ie chickens etc and is deemed to be worrying ,killing or even upsetting livestock can be killed by the landowner or his representative .

The welfare act protects ALL wildlife and domestic animals from abuse such as you’ve outlined .
If you can provide any links to your thoughts mate Id be grateful .

Lawful killing includes shooting and live trapping btw .

[paulus 26]

Never mind DERFA best advice is, "What happens in Vagas stays in Vagas"