paulus 26 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 There was a thing on telly this morning, May have been the news, About the effect reintroduced wolves were having in western Europe, Big packs roaming around the Belgian countryside, How long before these over paid experts realise, They were made to vanish for a reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 28,204 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Shame nicepix was harassed away as he had some good info on them having travelled as far as France if my memory serves me right think a solitary animal like a lynx is far safer to release than an animal that runs in an ever growing pack which as it gets bigger looses more fear 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, paulus said: There was a thing on telly this morning, May have been the news, About the effect reintroduced wolves were having in western Europe, Big packs roaming around the Belgian countryside, How long before these over paid experts realise, They were made to vanish for a reason. there was a program on tv a while back now...it was all about the wolves in Yellowstone National Park, the wolves were taking over the park so they took all of them out thinking it would solve the problem, in doing so the deer/wildlife population exploded......as the population of deer was growing they started to take over the park, which they started to eat a lot of the plants/trees which was also bad for the park.....with that happening they decided to reintroduce the wolf again to balance the whole thing out again, which it did, but i think they said they would keep an eye on the numbers and control them as and when.....Belgian will probably cull them back to sensible numbers to keep the balance going... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,262 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Greyman said: Shame nicepix was harassed away as he had some good info on them having travelled as far as France if my memory serves me right think a solitary animal like a lynx is far safer to release than an animal that runs in an ever growing pack which as it gets bigger looses more fear shows the clip of the man wanted it all his own way jacked when it didn’t go like that at least the bannings and drama as ended since he f****d off 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, mC HULL said: shows the clip of the man wanted it all his own way jacked when it didn’t go like that at least the bannings and drama as ended since he f****d off Don't be so sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,262 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, paulus said: Don't be so sure sure of what ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,818 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 49 minutes ago, tillylamp said: there was a program on tv a while back now...it was all about the wolves in Yellowstone National Park, the wolves were taking over the park so they took all of them out thinking it would solve the problem, in doing so the deer/wildlife population exploded......as the population of deer was growing they started to take over the park, which they started to eat a lot of the plants/trees which was also bad for the park.....with that happening they decided to reintroduce the wolf again to balance the whole thing out again, which it did, but i think they said they would keep an eye on the numbers and control them as and when.....Belgian will probably cull them back to sensible numbers to keep the balance going... read about that it's called trophic cascade reintroducing the wolf even made the rivers change there flow 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,818 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Trophic Cascade — Mission:Wolf (missionwolf.org) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 1,898 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJUN7BhGg04 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Packs of wolves must surely be governed by food sources or they would die off or need to expand .I think in Yellowstone if they go over the tops they are fair game for ranchers .The more game ,the more wolves I guess and vice versa . Coyote numbers are controlled by wolf packs in areas where they co exist and the cats present must surely be affected if their kills are constantly stolen . The only thing that dosnt appear to care about wolves are grizzlies . Got tbh ,my favourite predator . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tillylamp 1,830 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, greg64 said: Trophic Cascade — Mission:Wolf (missionwolf.org) i didn't watch video bud, but i did read the article, and that was exactly the same as the TV program we watched.....at the end of the program it was an eye opener of how nature could change if you took one species out of the equation....balance is the key.....thanks for putting that up bud... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,736 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 hours ago, paulus said: There was a thing on telly this morning, May have been the news, About the effect reintroduced wolves were having in western Europe, Big packs roaming around the Belgian countryside, How long before these over paid experts realise, They were made to vanish for a reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE STIFFMEISTER 15,736 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, scotty12 said: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJUN7BhGg04 Joe rogan loves a wolf story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepdiggin 9,559 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 Imagine wolves over here at least they would the bull x population Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 It’s a wonder there arnt the odd wolves about here .They have been kept in captivity for centuries .I know 3 places where private individuals have packs of wolves and F1 hybrids .The one lad lives in the centre of a nearby town in a terrace with 7 F1 wolf dogs .I supply deer heads etc to him .Another has 3 pairs of different sub species ,Grey ,red and timber . Hes on the outskirts of Bath . The other is a very private chap who has 9 wolf dog F1 hybrids and a grey dog stud .They are probably borderline tbh . I try spend time with them when time allows .F1 very affectionate when you get to know them ,straight not so .Along with my son we’ve walked them with the owner fair few times . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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