DIDO.1 22,837 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 hours ago, BGD said: Her face ended up a bit of a mess in later life Alright Dave. Not seen you on here for a while, hope your keeping well. Sandymere has taken your place as resident lefty.... unfortunately his ability to debate is a long way behind yours Like I say...hope your well 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,537 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: i get what your saying mate but linebreeding is breeding dogs that have an outstanding common ancestor which these did 6 generation ago which isn’t a lot really and there heavily inbred to that common ancestor 3 hours ago, mC HULL said: no the parents were inbred they have an outstanding common ancestor 6 generations ago that’s linebreeding Inbreeding and linebreeding are exactly the same thing .. Just because they have a common ancestor so many generations ago doesn't mean there the same line . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Chid said: Inbreeding and linebreeding are exactly the same thing .. Just because they have a common ancestor so many generations ago doesn't mean they’re the same line . inbreeding is breeding close mother son siblings etc on average a heavy inbred dog won’t perform linebreeding is breeding related dogs but further back in the pedigree in this case they were 2 heavily inbred lines of dogs put together that were from the same family tree how you get the real uns Edited March 15, 2023 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 12 hours ago, BGD said: Her face ended up a bit of a mess in later life She’s auld there….. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 10,523 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, VOON said: She’s auld there….. That's Lang Syne for you 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 20 hours ago, mC HULL said: no the parents were inbred they have an outstanding common ancestor 6 generations ago that’s linebreeding 1 ancestor 6 generations back is not line breeding 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, South hams hunter said: 1 ancestor 6 generations back is not line breeding how many times does the dog show up in the ped on both sides further back? of cause it’s line breeding Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: 1 ancestor 6 generations back is not line breeding 6 to 8 gen back nigger is in the pedigree about 20 times no nikki wasn’t linebred shh lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) not to mention dogs like spook pyliss spooky alligator dibo and more in there multiple times Edited March 16, 2023 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VOON 1,317 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 50 minutes ago, mC HULL said: 6 to 8 gen back nigger is in the pedigree about 20 times no nikki wasn’t linebred shh lol 44 minutes ago, mC HULL said: not to mention dogs like spook pyliss spooky alligator dibo and more in there multiple times There two heavily inbred lines who went down different routes to accentuate different traits, crossed together to achieve better performance. Whether they had a common ancestor 6 or 8 generations back is irrelevant….. Most men who know these lines would spot a dogs breeding by seeing them or seeing their traits without knowing the actual ped. That’s how different they are even with an ancestor back 6 or 8 generations. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, VOON said: There two heavily inbred lines who went down different routes to accentuate different traits, crossed together to achieve better performance. Whether they had a common ancestor 6 or 8 generations back is irrelevant….. Most men who know these lines would spot a dogs breeding by seeing them or seeing their traits without knowing the actual ped. That’s how different they are even with an ancestor back 6 or 8 generations. it’s still the same blood mate and is the reason it clicks Edited March 16, 2023 by mC HULL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 21 hours ago, mC HULL said: linebreeding is breeding dogs that have an outstanding common ancestor No......it isnt......linbreeding is breeding closely related individuals not some random common dog from 6 generations back. Linebreeding is a way of fixing in certain traits by genes repeating on each other........breeding 2 unrelated dogs who have a common ancestor 6 generations back is like playing the genetic lottery the chances of certain traits and characteristics repeating on each other is in the millions to one. Again,90% of the Apbt breed trace back to Tudors Dibo....is the entire breed line bred ?.....its a silly argument mate 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted March 16, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 17 hours ago, mC HULL said: inbreeding is breeding close mother son siblings etc on average a heavy inbred dog won’t perform linebreeding is breeding related dogs but further back in the pedigree in this case they were 2 heavily inbred lines of dogs put together that were from the same family tree how you get the real uns Totally wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: No......it isnt......linbreeding is breeding closely related individuals not some random common dog from 6 generations back. Linebreeding is a way of fixing in certain traits by genes repeating on each other........breeding 2 unrelated dogs who have a common ancestor 6 generations back is like playing the genetic lottery the chances of certain traits and characteristics repeating on each other is in the millions to one. Again,90% of the Apbt breed trace back to Tudors Dibo....is the entire breed line bred ?.....its a silly argument mate 90 percent trace to dibo who shoes up over and over then they are a family a dogs ain’t they when the dog 6 generations back shows up 2 dozen times it’s influence will come threw linebreeding is breeding dogs 3 generations and further back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 12,520 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Totally wrong. just my opinion mate but that’s how i’d say inbreeding and linebreeding works Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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