BGD 6,436 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 15/03/2023 at 16:27, DIDO.1 said: Alright Dave. Not seen you on here for a while, hope your keeping well. Sandymere has taken your place as resident lefty.... unfortunately his ability to debate is a long way behind yours Like I say...hope your well I'm grand thanks just popping my head in while on a break from my travels, good to see some of the old faces still knocking around. Hope you and yours are all doing well pal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,921 Posted March 16, 2023 Report Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, mC HULL said: why the laughing face shh do you know any performance animal that breed farther to daughter and call it linebreeding ? gnash can put his point across and i wouldn’t say it’s wrong just extreme that wouldn’t get results in greyhound racing horse racing or hare coursing you are just f***ing clueless it is what it is talking with you your trying to talk dogs with a fishermen Pigeons and dogs, it's not line breeding after 1 inbreeding. Has to be 'inbred' atleast twice to be line bred Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stop.end 4,079 Posted March 17, 2023 Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 hours ago, gnasher16 said: Getting back to Mo Dann i first met him in my early 20's and where dogs were concerned i would take on information like a sponge it fascinated me....i remember a little story he told me that Mayfield had told him about the Nigger dog......Nigger was born on Earl Tudors yard and Mayfield went there to buy some dogs but Earl wouldnt sell him Nigger.....Don just wanted to match as many dogs as possible and offered him good money as Nigger was a real wild acting fight crazy young dog......anything that moved he wanted to kill and would even destroy feed/water bowls,his doghouse etc......Earl ended up having to feed/water him in a hole he had dug in the ground and used an old fuel tank from a B - 52 bomber as his doghouse.......even with all those precautions by the time Nigger was 2 he barely had a tooth left in his mouth and so couldnt be matched anyway.......Don later said it showed him that Earl Tudor was a man who could be trusted. OK fella .... just re read back that in your own head and let it sink in... First off a great stockman wouldn't let that happen.... as in he would have given the dog the outlet to prove his worth and linage... he may have eaten dog bowls and water dishes but they don't weld back... for up to 30 minutes at a time. It's like I hear supposed legends in the terrier world who say oh this dogs retired at 3 he's too hard..... But think what you like from men who made a fortune of young gullible teens like yourself telling tales and making sales... the truth is in performance... Just like a terrier on a dig a lurcher on a slip or a gundog raising birds... But il still give you credit because you definitely seem to have been into your dogs at one time ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted March 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, stop.end said: OK fella .... just re read back that in your own head and let it sink in... First off a great stockman wouldn't let that happen.... as in he would have given the dog the outlet to prove his worth and linage... he may have eaten dog bowls and water dishes but they don't weld back... for up to 30 minutes at a time. It's like I hear supposed legends in the terrier world who say oh this dogs retired at 3 he's too hard..... But think what you like from men who made a fortune of young gullible teens like yourself telling tales and making sales... the truth is in performance... Just like a terrier on a dig a lurcher on a slip or a gundog raising birds... But il still give you credit because you definitely seem to have been into your dogs at one time ... While im sure you have a better record than both Don Mayfield and Earl Tudor combined i like to think the point of the story and the reason Don told it to Mo and down the line to folk like myself was that not every dog needs to have won matches to create successful lines.......Don created one of the greatest lines of bulldogs in the history of the game with a dog that had never won a match.....old timers like that just had an eye for a dog and the game test was enough to see what he wanted to see. Not as good as your eye for a dog granted and im sure your record stacks up well against old Dons....but in his day he was the king at matching bulldogs,simple as that. Edited March 17, 2023 by gnasher16 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,046 Posted March 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2023 20 hours ago, mC HULL said: i haven’t been around gamedogs like some on here stop i think gnash has knowledge on things knows his way around a dog we have the odd difference of opinions but he talks a lot a sense at times like you can talk sense at times aswell even though we have clashed and i’ve called you a knob etc lol we all have opinions don’t we but love working dogs so it’s all good be boring if we all muffed arse and thought the same lol You are talking about breeding for traits that are purely about physicality.....how fast a dog runs is a physical/athletic thing.....how fast a horse runs is a physical/athletic thing........the physical/athletic side of how well a dog can fight is way down the list of priorities......gameness is a state of mind,something i always liked to call a man made reversal of nature. Inbreeding within game dogs is to lock in a state of mind NOT how hard the dog bites or how well the dog can work off a stifle hold etc....the minute you start inbreeding game dogs for anything other than gameness you are in trouble. With every respect to you Mchull as you seem like a nice enough lad,you have literally no idea what you are talking about,which is fine we all like to learn about different subjects.....but to state your opinions on proven facts just makes you look a little bit silly.....if game dogs interest you go and do some research,and while you're there do some research on linebreeding 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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